Cars 1937 Auto Union Type C (WIP)

[TheSourceOfTheNile]

Hope you guys find a way to fit these two great mods together

Exactly! I'm unable to find a download for the W125 currently, so bundling them together as a pack would be a wonderful idea.

 

[aphidgod]

It's hosted over at assettocorsamods.net.

 

[TheSourceOfTheNile]

It's hosted over at assettocorsamods.net.

Thank you! Can't wait to try it out.

 

[Bozian]

I found this in an automotive museum in Hamburg last weekend

 

[UnixRoot]

The August Horch Museum in Zwickau, Germany does have an really impressive Auto Union Type C replica, if you are interested.

Can't wait to drive this beast around the Nordschleife.

 

[garyjpaterson]

I found a copy of the Cyril Posthumus one today in the library. 12 pages covering 1934-9 so not very detailed unfortunately.

What are the technical gaps that need filling? The car seems to have had very active development. Have you settled on a particular race's configuration to try to replicate? Or will it be based on whatever data happens to be available across the car's active racing years?

Yeah that one arrived, not super thorough but little piece of history (written in the 60s based on what they are saying about 'modern' F1 cars ). Nice to have fuel tank capacity confirmed, and race start weight too (in 'cwt'! )
As data is so sparse for this car relative to the Merc, I'll take anything though ideally I'm looking to model a 37 year one - as far as I'm aware specs didn't change drastically.

Managed to find one of these on ebay for a reasonable price - I'm fully expecting it to mostly cover the Merc's but from what I've seen it'll be a fascinating read regardless.

(merc stuff^)

(more merc stuff^)

Very much looking forward for that to arrive!

Exactly! I'm unable to find a download for the W125 currently, so bundling them together as a pack would be a wonderful idea.

Very unlikely to package them together. I'm happy to link to the Merc at all opportunity but the download for my Auto Union will be for my Auto Union only.

I found this in an automotive museum in Hamburg last weekend

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Very cool. They seemed to have a really nice level of quality control on these things, visibly 'neater' than say the Merc's of the time imo.

The August Horch Museum in Zwickau, Germany does have an really impressive Auto Union Type C replica, if you are interested.

Am i interested in travelling to have a look? Would love to, time and money says otherwise though

 

[garyjpaterson]

Not done a whole lot the past little while, but just added some smaller details such as panel catch things (yet to be textured, along with all the rest of the super shiny mech stuff!).
Picking out parts that need normal maps/special treatment and doing those now, so that includes the big body bolts, 'holes' on the grille (dont worry how stupid shiny it is right now), little body coloured rivets, brake hose crimps and the cooling fins for the brakes (just on the left for now, will get mirrored later).

Sort of leaving the big 'easy' stuff to last, with texturing all the mech stuff at once, adding detail to the interior etc. So it should all come together pretty fast at a certain point, just not quite yet.

 

[cerebralvortex]

The whole car seems to be reflecting a lot, almost seems like glass.

 

[garyjpaterson]

The whole car seems to be reflecting a lot, almost seems like glass.

Literally no different from any other car, using very standard shaders to ensure parity across the kunos range should anyone want to add skins.
This is just the nature of viewing car paint at near parallel angles, the fresnel effect reflects a lot more than it would if you were looking at a more perpendicular angle.
The reference images I use show it painted silver, so same as any other silver car out there, so it will get the same shader treatment any other car would. That being said, in historic pics it looks more beat up and worn, less shiny etc, so I might look into recreating that via the RGB maps.

Anyway here is the Kunos Maserati using the same detail texture to show its no different.

 

[AccAkut]

Wondering about this, as the only period car I came really close to had a way less sharp reflecting paintjob:

 

[JayMc73]

I think the reflectivity of the finish just depends on the finish of the paint. Also some historic cars these days have original finish paint while others have been resprayed.

I took this photo at Goodwod back in 2012.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jason_mcdowell/7988133356/in/dateposted-public

 

[garyjpaterson]

Yeah, as I said, you can see quite a variety of surface finishes over the years.

These are the best quality images I have at my disposal so its only natural that that the majority of what I am making is replicating this, a full gloss finish. Is that going to be the most authentic race ready machine? Probably not, but at least it means my model should hopefully be correct to 'something' rather than an incorrect mash up of lots of specs.

So for example mine has no extra cooling holes on the front, I have the shorter distinctive water pipe that cut into the cockpit instead of the longer one required at some races, and countless other smaller differences.

Most of the period photos do tend to look more matte, I assume lacking a lacquer, similar to the finish of the car AccAkut posted. That being said, they are poorer quality images, so its hard to get a real idea of what the finish should look like. I do plan on at least attempting to replicate something like this though with RGB maps.

This one looks to be bare metal, which looks beautiful imo, but that could be tricky to emulate so lets wait and see. Outside of 'in progress project' photos, not many seem to use this bare metal finish, I dont think it was ever raced like this.

 

[elloLeo Kinnunen]

I can't help clicking the heart icon on every post... possibly getting a bit carried away with hearting the description of the paint coat options but the attention to detail is mind boggling!

 

[cerebralvortex]

Thanks for looking into it Gary !

 

[Andy-R]

Here are a few more (poor quality) snaps from Goodwood. From memory most of the 30's F1 cars I saw looked like bare metal but no idea how original they were.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-5842426fIXrXpSnM9kK0ETeZeixnpwc
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-2kakp5HLwwLUI_0_rHYf-RArXRjvBiA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-1I_2fES6C-TZx2gN2jLQiGGDT-RqaBl

 

[garyjpaterson]

Looking for a bit of help here - can anyone identify the font used for this Auto Union logo (or alternatively find a non-skewed decent quality photograph I can copy)?

Additionally, anyone know what font or something similar for the driver numbers?

 

[Fat-Alfie]

AU font looks like Futura to me

I'll have a think about the race numbers...

 

[garyjpaterson]

AU font looks like Futura to me

I'll have a think about the race numbers...

Awesome, thanks! If worst comes to worst, I'll just draw the required numbers by hand, just means I'll probably stick to the bare minimum most popular ones

 

[Fat-Alfie]

Antonio Bold is fairly similar for the race numbers, in a condensed-bold kind of way, but doesn't have that nice angled joint on the 5

https://www.1001fonts.com/antonio-font.html
https://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/antonio

 

[Please Stop This]

https://mercedes-benz-publicarchive.../ko.xhtml?grp=R_TECH_DATA&oid=6815#toRelation
edit: lol indeed wrong thread