VR or not?

I already own a 1080Ti. If I bother to upgrade it, I want a much bigger jump. Maybe a 2080Ti Super if I do.

BTW, I want software companies to finally tap into all that unused power. That's why it was put there.

I got the 1080Ti right after the 20 series was released and it was obvious it would be a long time before there was any benefit to getting one. The 2080 was about 2/3 more and made no sense.

Maybe once the 2080Ti Super is released there will be enough of a jump to consider.
 
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I already own a 1080Ti. If I bother to upgrade it, I want a much bigger jump. Maybe a 2080Ti Super if I do.

BTW, I want software companies to finally tap into all that unused power. That's why it was put there.

I got the 1080Ti right after the 20 series was released and it was obvious it would be a long time before there was any benefit to getting one. The 2080 was about 2/3 more and made no sense.

Maybe once the 2080Ti Super is released there will be enough of a jump to consider.


I hade it the other way around, the 1080ti was much more expensive than the 2080.
I’m happy with it. But I wouldn’t pay 2/3 more than a 1080Ti for one.
 
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Elaphe was talking about picking up a 1080Ti used with the idea of getting a higher end card later.

And on second thought I'm not sure I'd recommend that unless he got a really good deal because of the pricing trickle down coming with the introduction of the new "Super" cards.

For the current price of a 2080, the 2080 Super will be similar to a 2080Ti and at that price would be a much better choice. The existing 2080 will continue to be available, but they will be dropping the price likely close to what a 1080Ti costs.

The bottom line is that I'd wait to see how the market looks after the Super cards have dropped.
 
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None of the RTX cards are worth it as far as I’m concerned the power increase was not enough. I nearly jumped on 1080Ti from my current 980Ti but the reality is no current card can max VR sims, so I await the next cards before I’ll consider upgrading my whole rig.
 
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None of the RTX cards are worth it as far as I’m concerned the power increase was not enough. I nearly jumped on 1080Ti from my current 980Ti but the reality is no current card can max VR sims, so I await the next cards before I’ll consider upgrading my whole rig.

What I've found is that a 1080Ti allows me to max out my SS on a Rift at 2.0 on non-sim games.
On Sim games I end up with 1.3-1.6 with the 1080Ti before my i9-9900K becomes a bottleneck.

Right now a 2080Ti is only about 30% more powerful which doesn't feel like much. Now if they can finally start to harness some of those sleeping pipelines they could be very powerful.

If we could just leverage all of that extra power I think we would be in decent shape.
 
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2080 is worse than 1080ti, in earlier tests 2080Ti showed like 5-15% boost depending on the game, but crazy expensive. If you can hold for the next gen, just do that, or at least wait just a little longer for new 2080 Super series.
Race sims are CPU limited in VR anyway, 1080Ti is hardly a bottleneck.
And someone mentioned DR being Oculus only, you can still make it or any other Oculus title work with Revive and show Facebook a middle finger they deserved.
 
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Next gen nvidia is called Ampere and wont' be there until mid to late 2020. The "super" cards are mainly a speed bump that you can get by a manual OC. The speed bump is mainly on the mem which is rarely a limitation in games. What you want are lots more cuda cores and higher core clocks. The super should be good for about 10% over their counterparts. Hopefully it's the pricing that comes down.

Ampere will also be 7nm and there haven't been any rumors of die spins happening yet so it's a fair bit away. Best case scenario for Ampere will be trying to align it's launch with Cyberpunk 2077 next year but that's optimistic.

Between a 2080 to a 1080ti, I'd go for the one that's cheaper.
 
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2080 is worse than 1080ti, in earlier tests 2080Ti showed like 5-15% boost depending on the game, but crazy expensive. If you can hold for the next gen, just do that, or at least wait just a little longer for new 2080 Super series.
Race sims are CPU limited in VR anyway, 1080Ti is hardly a bottleneck.
And someone mentioned DR being Oculus only, you can still make it or any other Oculus title work with Revive and show Facebook a middle finger they deserved.

Revive works well on some titles, but in the last few months it hasn’t worked well with DR. It’s a nightmare to get it to play in VR, and when it works, it doesn’t because of the late head movement. I had it working for a few months. But now it is a no go game for me...
 
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Revive works well on some titles, but in the last few months it hasn’t worked well with DR. It’s a nightmare to get it to play in VR, and when it works, it doesn’t because of the late head movement. I had it working for a few months. But now it is a no go game for me...

Did you buy Dirt Rally from the Oculus store or through Steam?

I've purchased all my titles through Steam except The Climb and Lone Echo which are Oculus exclusives.

When I bring up Dirt Rally 1.0 in VR it asks me if I want Oculus or SteamVR mode. I'm hoping that running in SteamVR mode will be native to the Valve Index. I'm willing to walk away from my Oculus store content.

However I see that Dirt Rally still only shows as being supported by Oculus in the Steam Store. I guess I will find out how this all works in a month. Dirt Rally is my favorite game right now.
 
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Did you buy Dirt Rally from the Oculus store or through Steam?

I've purchased all my titles through Steam except The Climb and Lone Echo which are Oculus exclusives.

When I bring up Dirt Rally 1.0 in VR it asks me if I want Oculus or SteamVR mode. I'm hoping that running in SteamVR mode will be native to the Valve Index. I'm willing to walk away from my Oculus store content.

Almost all my games is bought through Steam. I only play Racing Sims. IRacing and LFS is the only one I don’t have through Steam. WMR is a good choice if you’re on a budget. Or a used CV1. I don’t like to have to fuzz around alot to get a game working. If only Codemasters could implement VR, without Oculus having to pay them... Well, next Dirt Rally, or any other Codmaster game, I will NOT buy if it’s not support VR from all the big manufacturers.!
 
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I'm the same I can't go back to a pancake monitor, if it doesn't support VR I just wont buy it any more.
I just wish that codemasters would implement VR into to their F1 series, and even their back catalogue Grid etc.
I have a CV1 and an Rift S I use the S for racing sims for clarity and the CV1 for all the room scale games for the added tracking e.g.
Stand Out, Budget Cuts, Pavlov,Onward etc
 
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@Danny O'Neill Have you tried "In Death" ? :) I love that game!
Your comment about the inside out tracking on the Rift S not being up to snuff with the original Rift tracks well with other comments I've read.

@Terje Helle Are you saying your issue is re-projection with WMR ?

My understanding is that Vive re-projection worked very well with Dirt Rally and I'm assuming the Index will be similar. I've also read that it works flawlessly with the Pimax 5K+

I've read that certain versions of SteamVR had issues, but that it should be working well now.
 
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Next gen nvidia is called Ampere and wont' be there until mid to late 2020. The "super" cards are mainly a speed bump that you can get by a manual OC. The speed bump is mainly on the mem which is rarely a limitation in games. What you want are lots more cuda cores and higher core clocks. The super should be good for about 10% over their counterparts. Hopefully it's the pricing that comes down.

Ampere will also be 7nm and there haven't been any rumors of die spins happening yet so it's a fair bit away. Best case scenario for Ampere will be trying to align it's launch with Cyberpunk 2077 next year but that's optimistic.

Between a 2080 to a 1080ti, I'd go for the one that's cheaper.
Good intel, thanks. I have read that 2080Ti Super (Ti only), will be brand new chip. Any idea what that could be?
 
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@Terje Helle Are you saying your issue is re-projection with WMR ?

My understanding is that Vive re-projection worked very well with Dirt Rally and I'm assuming the Index will be similar. I've also read that it works flawlessly with the Pimax 5K+

I've read that certain versions of SteamVR had issues, but that it should be working well now.

I have the Lenovo. And it worked well with DR, then it didn’t, then it worked for a while, and now it’s back to not working. If I was in the marked for a new headset, in the middle class prize range. I would buy the Rift S. It’s just easier. Also, if I would buy a cheap VR headset, I might just buy a second hand CV1.

The thing is Revive works good when it works. It’s just not stable enough, in my opinion.

But tomorrow I might say something different, it is frustrating to not have a Rally game in VR, but when it works it’s all good...
 
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It's the next step for my setup. I'm currently using a 42" TV set, so I guess the change will be awesome. Unfortunatelly, I'll have to update my PC first. I'm not sure whether to pick a used 1080Ti now and keep my CPU (an old i7 4790K), or maybe just do a whole update and buy a better CPU (which means a new motherboard, ram, etc), and wait for the 2080Ti to be at a better price. I want to play Assetto Corsa (just hotlapping Nords, so I don't need more cars on track), and above all, Dirt Rally. I don't want to have to lower many graphical settings, so I'm not sure if even a 1080Ti will be enough, especially when paired with my old CPU. Any advice?
I currently run Assetto Corsa constantly over 100 FPS on 1440p resolution with highest settings with my aircooled 4790K @4.5 Ghz and a 1080Ti. You will be perfectly fine, but 2080 Super is just around the corner with a significant (about 30%) increase of performance.
 
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Here's how much VR has changed my whole sim race experience. Up until I bought my first VR, I was running iracing about 90% of the time or more. Now that I have VR, iracing looks cartoonish IMO compared to R3E, AC, ACC, and PCARS2, and I can hardly stand to run it... I drove iracing in VR for about 30 mins last week, but all the rest of my time for the las several months has been spent running the aforementioned titles, and I'm loving running them all. If iracing ever gets their outdated graphics going better, I may return. But I'm not missing it at all.
 
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Jumping between a 55" 70cm from my face and an Odyssey+, I really like both. But I chose different driving lines depending on what I'm using. Some of the lines I use in the 55" dont feel natural in VR and vice-versa. The VR lines appear to be faster.
 
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Still on the fence waiting for next gen also wearing glasses, haven't had the chance to try out headsets fittings. With a GTX1060 6gb so I'm in the min specs area, might go for a Windows Mixed if the price drops in Europe like they are stateside.

1060 6gb is not good enough, but the investment is totally worth it. Give pc boost it can use in editing for photos and videos. VR is a must have once you've driven in PC2,AC, Dirt 1 and 2. Rally 2 is exceptional in VR.
 
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