Tracks Special Stage Route 5 Beta 0.4
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CaptainLykaios
Giga Kubica
Thank you, currently it is not on my long list of projects and I currently have no plans in the foreseeable future of making it.
CaptainLykaios
Giga Kubica
CaptainLykaios updated Special Stage Route 5 Beta with a new update entry:
Major Update. New Content, Major Overhaul.
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First of all great job already, you could count GT as my initiation to sim racing since I first played it back in 1998 and then subsequently moved on. So it holds fond memories and so does SSR5. With that said I'd like to give some feedback here.
The new update only seems to have autumn trees? Is it possible to have a version with regular green versions as well so we can chose between the two?
When entering the fast left/right kink you get confronted with these barriers all of a sudden when you stick close to the apex. They give me a scare each time but luckily there is no collision model so I don't destroy myself. Can these be removed?:
Then, the concrete surroundings and walls around the track seem very bright at night like there is some artificial light source illuminating them instead of just the lanterns. They don't seem to have any shadows affecting them:
And for the buildings, all the lighted windows seem to be colored the same. So you have a building with only white lights, the other with only yellow lights and then a 3rd version with only greenish lights. It would be more immersive and realistic if there was some alteration between the windows. In real life people use different lightbulbs from room to room as well:
Hope this helps! Can't wait to see this being worked on further so we get close to what it should look like in GT7
The new update only seems to have autumn trees? Is it possible to have a version with regular green versions as well so we can chose between the two?
When entering the fast left/right kink you get confronted with these barriers all of a sudden when you stick close to the apex. They give me a scare each time but luckily there is no collision model so I don't destroy myself. Can these be removed?:
Then, the concrete surroundings and walls around the track seem very bright at night like there is some artificial light source illuminating them instead of just the lanterns. They don't seem to have any shadows affecting them:
And for the buildings, all the lighted windows seem to be colored the same. So you have a building with only white lights, the other with only yellow lights and then a 3rd version with only greenish lights. It would be more immersive and realistic if there was some alteration between the windows. In real life people use different lightbulbs from room to room as well:
Hope this helps! Can't wait to see this being worked on further so we get close to what it should look like in GT7
CaptainLykaios
Giga Kubica
Hi the first issue with the barrier sticking out seems to only affect some people.First of all great job already, you could count GT as my initiation to sim racing since I first played it back in 1998 and then subsequently moved on. So it holds fond memories and so does SSR5. With that said I'd like to give some feedback here.
The new update only seems to have autumn trees? Is it possible to have a version with regular green versions as well so we can chose between the two?
When entering the fast left/right kink you get confronted with these barriers all of a sudden when you stick close to the apex. They give me a scare each time but luckily there is no collision model so I don't destroy myself. Can these be removed?:
Then, the concrete surroundings and walls around the track seem very bright at night like there is some artificial light source illuminating them instead of just the lanterns. They don't seem to have any shadows affecting them:
And for the buildings, all the lighted windows seem to be colored the same. So you have a building with only white lights, the other with only yellow lights and then a 3rd version with only greenish lights. It would be more immersive and realistic if there was some alteration between the windows. In real life people use different lightbulbs from room to room as well:
Hope this helps! Can't wait to see this being worked on further so we get close to what it should look like in GT7
I would suggest a clean install since that bug is not present on my PC or computer my friend that clean installed the track.
The lighting under the Clubman route is due to there being lights above the track itself which seems to extend below the track as well. That is something I'll be looking into.
As for the buildings, unfortunately due to the way AC handles the textures it is not possible to have differing window colours on one building without having to increase the poly count of the buildings and size of the track since AC puts emissive on the entire texture. At least not a way I am aware of.
As for the green trees version, for the time being it is not a priority for me, but after the final release of the track it might be something that I add
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Will try that thanks for the tip.
Great, yeah in general the barriers and concrete elements around the track do seem a bit overexposed.
Maybe take Shutoko as an example? They must use buildings as well that don't take too much resources (as that track is huge), and as you can see they do have different colors. Also not all of the windows are lighted which also adds to the realism:
Good to hear! Yeah the autumn version is nice but feels a bit gimicky let's say? Would be nice to see a standard version in the future indeed.
Anyhow keep up the good work!
CaptainLykaios
Giga Kubica
I may have an idea on how to do that. The pattern of windows that are lit up on SSR5 is one for one replica of those lit up in GT4 variant, but that choice was done when I first decided to replicate the track one for one, but since 0.3 I have changed course to bring the track into current generation with the original feel so might be something to change.Maybe take Shutoko as an example? They must use buildings as well that don't take too much resources (as that track is huge), and as you can see they do have different colors. Also not all of the windows are lighted which also adds to the realism:
Do let me know if that works, if it doesn't I'll need to do some troubleshooting
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This is easily one of the nicer versions of ssr5 but it reaaaally desperately needs the most basic of optimizations, which is to merge all objects that share a material.
The street lightbulbs, for example, are all separate objects but they should be merged together into reasonable chunks like the lights in the tunnel - similarly with adboards, buildings and lots of other objects - too many separate objects that should be merged into bigger chunks.
CSP has some optional optimizations that do this but I prefer not to rely on them as they can also mess up other tracks that were not created with these options in mind. Ideally, these kind of stuff should be done in the 3D model, not through CSP.
Object count is the main fps killer; this track is at around 3000 dips on average when a reasonable amount is around 1500.
But I also found CPU usage to be really high. Haven´t looked into that yet but the usual cause is collision walls being too high poly or just having too many separate ones and also having these be both visual and physical.
The street lightbulbs, for example, are all separate objects but they should be merged together into reasonable chunks like the lights in the tunnel - similarly with adboards, buildings and lots of other objects - too many separate objects that should be merged into bigger chunks.
CSP has some optional optimizations that do this but I prefer not to rely on them as they can also mess up other tracks that were not created with these options in mind. Ideally, these kind of stuff should be done in the 3D model, not through CSP.
Object count is the main fps killer; this track is at around 3000 dips on average when a reasonable amount is around 1500.
But I also found CPU usage to be really high. Haven´t looked into that yet but the usual cause is collision walls being too high poly or just having too many separate ones and also having these be both visual and physical.
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CaptainLykaios
Giga Kubica
Thank you for your kind words.
And yeah I am aware of the merging of the objects, however that is something I want to do at the final release as I am constantly tweaking the placement of various models and it is much easier when they are separate objects.
Rest assured this will be taken care of before the 1.0 release.
Also the walls collision is something that I'll sort out I believe I know which walls they are and will sort before the final release
CaptainLykaios
Giga Kubica
Most likely the points that Mitch9 made about objects not being merged into one bigger chunk.
This will be remedied in final release of the track, but for the time being I am keeping the objects separate to make it easier for me to edit.
Fixed with clean install
CaptainLykaios
Giga Kubica
Thats a weird one.
Double check to see if the extensions folder included in the download are in the right place in main Assetto Corsa folder structure
I fixed it, thanks. Btw, I just do the ol drag and drop the files, and I found the cause of the issue. By dragging content folder, it went content>extension>config>tracks>ini file. When really, the extension folder shoud be separate from content folder. Going straight to extension>config>tracks>ini file. Thus putting the ini file in the correct place.
edit: Track looks beautiful by the way.
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Tried this for the first time, it's a really solid base and does indeed capture the GT look.
Building textures, road mesh, and overall optimization are definitely at the top of the to-do list, with AI following. I also believe I could see through the background in Sector 1 somewhere. But, at 0.4, things like this are to be expected.
This definitely has the potential to be the best SSR5 out there. I hope further work is still planned. Cheers.
Building textures, road mesh, and overall optimization are definitely at the top of the to-do list, with AI following. I also believe I could see through the background in Sector 1 somewhere. But, at 0.4, things like this are to be expected.
This definitely has the potential to be the best SSR5 out there. I hope further work is still planned. Cheers.
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