S15 General Discussion

[David Turnbull]

I've restarted the servers, rebooted the router and left only 2 servers up, hopefully this solves the problem, we'll give it another 2-3 days before we consider reverting back to the last build

 

[Steeve Fournier]

Alex also had at least 2 lost connection

 

[Steeve Fournier]

As making skins is not possible, i think we should not restricted people to use skins that are already taken. Because the feelings of the cars are really not the same, only because of the sound. What do you guys think?

 

[David Turnbull]

Yup people can use any skin they want or any car they want

 

[JeffL]

When downloading content with vmod, says something about the url not being right and won't download japan. Any Ideas.

 

[Dino Paolini]

When downloading content with vmod, says something about the url not being right and won't download japan. Any Ideas.

You can download any track that is beeing used HERE manualy (bottom of the post)

 

[JeffL]

Thanks officially bookmarked

 

[Martin Oconnor]

Does anyone know how to stop the cockpit shaking,I have the vibration on 0 but still the same

 

[David Turnbull]

in the player.json, under graphics options set all the cockpit vibrations to 0 and head physics too.

"Cockpit Vibration Freq1":0,
"Cockpit Vibration Freq1#":"Primary rate of vibration affects eyepoint position (higher framerates allow higher rates)",
"Cockpit Vibration Freq2":0,
"Cockpit Vibration Freq2#":"Secondary rate of vibration affects eyepoint orientation",
"Cockpit Vibration Mult1":0,
"Cockpit Vibration Mult1#":"Primary aerodynamic vibration multiplier affects eyepoint position (base magnitude is in VEH or cockpit file)",
"Cockpit Vibration Mult2":0,
"Cockpit Vibration Mult2#":"Secondary aerodynamic vibration multiplier affects eyepoint orientation (base magnitude is in VEH or cockpit file)",

and

"Head Physics":0,
"Head Physics#":"Fraction of head physics movement applied to cockpit view (position AND rotation)",
"Head Rotation":0,
"Head Rotation#":"Additional head physics multiplier affecting rotation only",

 

[Martin Oconnor]

Omg that is soooo much better thanks David

 

[Martin Oconnor]

Can anyone help I can't get on the server.days connection failed.was ok for practice
Edit I'm on

 

[Peter Decker]

Nice to see the race rescheduled in 6 days! I would prefer we either move the last race after new years or run for instance the 2nd race after only one week gap from the real first race.

 

[April Dillon]

Agreed, I think condensing the calendar so another 2 week break becomes 1 week instead would be a viable solution to finishing earlier. Though, granted, I have a lot of flexibility to make the races which others might not.

 

[JeffL]

I have seen a couple of tidbits about a calendar change and also a test race. I haven't seen much of a conversation about the race and the discos. Is there an announcement coming? Was the race nullified?

 

[David Turnbull]

the disconnects are server problems nothing at your client end to do so no point making any announcments until such times the server is fixed. the race was postponed until next wednesday, the calendar reflects this

and yup a test race on either monday or tuesday whatever can give us the greater turn out, we need numbers to put peters server to a proper test

 

[April Dillon]

After the talk on the server for Monza's race about dropped scores, I guess we should consider it properly here. See if people want it, and if it's the right thing to do. So I've got these hypothetical outcomes for S14 had we adopted a dropped scores policy.

If we only drop each driver's worst, then it seems a bit pointless. The only two drivers who drop any points are Dino Paolini and Artyom Aslamazyan, as they both scored points with finishes at every race. Dino remains in 1st and Artyom in 2nd.

1. Dino Paolini 379
2. Artyom Aslamazyan 310
3. David Turnbull 280
4. Nicolas Delamare 257
5. Peter Decker 227
6. Sean Greenlaw 215
7. Martin Floeck 180
8. Tim McIver 169
9. April Dillon 163
10. Mark Breslin 99
11. Valerio Vinassa 98
12. Nicolas Rouge 93

With 2 drops we start seeing some changes. Dino, Artyom, Peter and myself all drop points, though we still make a minority of the grid.

1. Dino Paolini 336
2. David Turnbull 280 (+1)
3. Artyom Aslamazyan 276 (-1)
4. Nicolas Delamare 257
5. Sean Greenlaw 215 (+1)
6. Peter Decker 209 (-1)
7. Martin Floeck 180
8. Tim McIver 169
9. April Dillon 150
10. Mark Breslin 99
11. Valerio Vinassa 98
12. Nicolas Rouge 93

This is the threshold where we start seeing the outcome change. Both David Turnbull and Sean Greenlaw's DNFs are diminished compared to Artyom and Peter's consistency. And with 3 drops...

1. Dino Paolini 293
2. David Turnbull 255 (+1)
3. Artyom Aslamazyan 242 (-1)
4. Nicolas Delamare 226
5. Sean Greenlaw 215 (+1)
6. Peter Decker 187 (-1)
7. Martin Floeck 160
8. Tim McIver 155
9. April Dillon 136
10. Mark Breslin 99
11. Valerio Vinassa 98
12. Nicolas Rouge 93

No change in positions from 2 drops, both within the top 10 and below. And at this point we are dropping 1/3rd of the race results, which is rather excessive.

Below 10th place in the championship the 3 dropped scores are all DNFs or DNSs for each driver. For reference, the final standings in S14 (as is official, without dropped scores) compared to how many race finishes everyone has, and also starts.

1. Dino Paolini 9/9
2. Artyom Aslamazyan 9/9
3. David Turnbull 7/9
4. Nicolas Delamare 7/9
5. Peter Decker 8/8
6. Sean Greenlaw 6/9
7. Martin Floeck 7/8
8. Tim McIver 7/9
9. April Dillon 8/9
10. Mark Breslin 5/8
11. Valerio Vinassa 6/9
12. Nicolas Rouge 4/6

The full sheet I worked this out in is here if anyone wants to see everything. Though one thing it can't account for is some of our new drivers, and what effect they'll have in other parts of the field.

 

[Christian Michel]

tl;dr please April

No, seriously..the for me most important thing about this drop rule is that you are able to miss one round and still be there to fight for your position in the championship, if we don't have the rule and you miss a race you are nearly done if your rival doesn't make any huge mistakes in a couple of Races.

 

[David Turnbull]

We need to agree on this very soon, I see both sides of the arguement, it obviously makes sense for everyone as it provides some leeway you could miss a race, you could dnf and still know your in with a chance at the end. but... the other side of this is what if you complete every race and get to the end thinking you've won the championship but a guy who has dnf'd actually wins because you've had to give up a 3rd place as your worst result which then gives you less points than the guy who dnf'd.

Like I said I see both side's to this, maybe the guy dnf'd due to an incident lapping or disconnect or.. you get the point that would be fair in my eyes to take away the worst result, but what if the guy dnf'd due to a silly move or his own error, is it then fair to take away that result? and give him an advantage come the end so to speak.

We need everyones thought's on this ASAP, a decision needs to be made early so that if we do go with it and it gets to the end there can be no complaining if the above happen's

 

[Mark Breslin]

In favour of 'drop one' only.
This is due to real life that can get in the way.
(dnf's , technical issues is just part of the racing game.!)

 

[Peter Decker]

I'm in favor of using a drop one race-rule, since everyone should be able to compete at their best level and we're not privileged enough in this earth-life to always fully commit to this heaven of simultaneous alpha- and beta-brain waves.