F1 2017 Qualification seems a bit tough

Pablo77797 · Aug 26, 2017

AI looks a bit op in quali, but race tempo is opposite. I reckon the problem might be in either setup or(and) lack of practice.

Molda22 · Aug 26, 2017

I have the same problem. AI is extremely good in practice and qualification, but is very poor in races. (on the same difficulty setting for the whole race weekend.) its very unbalanced sadly.

Yannick Van Broeck · Aug 27, 2017

You can adjust AI difficulty between session. At AUS for example I use 83% for P and Q and 86% for the race to create competition.

I know, we shouldn't have to do this. It's just a workaround until it ever gets fixed

Vitor M Sousa · Aug 27, 2017

The worst part is AI putting awesome times at the end of sessions...

ghawk668 · Aug 28, 2017

Vitor M Sousa said:
The worst part is AI putting awesome times at the end of sessions...

I've found that being on track as the session ends, stops the sudden jump in pace. I try to start a lap shortly before the time expires.

Vitor M Sousa · Aug 28, 2017

ghawk668 said:
I've found that being on track as the session ends, stops the sudden jump in pace. I try to start a lap shortly before the time expires.

Nope. Had that happen when on track at the end of session as well.

Sad because that makes qualy vs race different difficulty

Coffer · Aug 28, 2017

Is it me or are the magic times they set at the end of a session basically 110% times? A friend of mine is playing at 95% and that's what he's getting right now, but at the same time, 2016 had a very similar bug and even on Ultimate they'd actually set faster times with this bug.

Ho3n3r · Aug 28, 2017

Vitor M Sousa said:
The worst part is AI putting awesome times at the end of sessions...

I thought I saw the same thing. I was well ahead of my teammate at the end of the session, and I let the time run out naturally, but when the final standings were shown, my teammate was over a second ahead of me.

Good to know I wasn't imagining it.

hollenhammer · Aug 28, 2017

Ho3n3r said:
I thought I saw the same thing. I was well ahead of my teammate at the end of the session, and I let the time run out naturally, but when the final standings were shown, my teammate was over a second ahead of me.

Good to know I wasn't imagining it.

Same here. I got bumped from like 11th all the way down to 20th. Next time I play i'll check the race director times to see sectors with a few seconds left and then see how they match up post session. It seems unreasonable and makes me feel like i'm playing 2010 again

Vitor M Sousa · Aug 28, 2017

It's definitely fixed times as I was bumped by drivers not even on track when session ended.
Hope they fix this quick.

Ho3n3r · Aug 28, 2017

hollenhammer said:
Same here. I got bumped from like 11th all the way down to 20th. Next time I play i'll check the race director times to see sectors with a few seconds left and then see how they match up post session. It seems unreasonable and makes me feel like i'm playing 2010 again

Check here, I see someone has reported it today: http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/56473/bug-fake-times-calculated-at-the-end-of-qualy#latest

Oh and I remember Sainz was actually 1.4 seconds ahead of me when the standings came up, after being far behind me as the timer hit 0 (no time accel).

Please respond there if you can, we need as much attention as possible on this, as it's the only really frustrating bug (if you're doing 100% races in career - the wear scaling bug is probably also frustrating if you do 25-50%, although I don't have that problem).

TheDuck · Aug 28, 2017

On 104% it seems to be alright for me, depending on the track - for example, in the Renault, I qualified 15th at Bahrain, and then 6th at Russia. I do agree with the point made about the sudden jump in times at the end of the session, sometimes people are gaining 7 tenths, which in China I believe put me from 7th down to 11th in Q2.

Coffer · Aug 29, 2017

TheDuck said:
On 104% it seems to be alright for me, depending on the track - for example, in the Renault, I qualified 15th at Bahrain, and then 6th at Russia. I do agree with the point made about the sudden jump in times at the end of the session, sometimes people are gaining 7 tenths, which in China I believe put me from 7th down to 11th in Q2.

Even on 110% in Australia they were gaining the exact same amount. Luckily I managed to exploit it by forcing it to push me down to 11th and thus get fresh tyres, but on tracks where you really need to qualify high up, this is going to be an absolute pain.

McM · Aug 29, 2017

is this because of time skipping/acceleration?

Coffer · Aug 29, 2017

McM said:
is this because of time skipping/acceleration?

Doesn't look like it. Far as I can tell, it only happens when the game is not processing what's going on on the track at all, such as when you start a direct flying lap, return straight to the garage, or, most aggravatingly, when you finish the session. The problem was actually present in 2016 as well, but now it happens for the vast majority of drivers as opposed to only a handful like it did in that title.