Processor (PGA478)

[Mitchell Smith]

Hey lads, I'll make this quick and simple. I need someone who knows about Processors to just fill me in a little, I have a Pentium 4 with PPGA478 socket and I'd like to upgrade to a core 2 Duo, socket PGA478, whats the difference and will they work together?

Pentium 4:

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?i...+Technology+2.60+GHz,+512K+Cache,+800+MHz+FSB

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?i...gy+2.60+GHz,+512K+Cache,+800+MHz+FSB#ordering


My (hopefully) future CORE 2 Duo:

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=35569

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=35569#ordering

Cheers guys,

Mitch.

 

[Robin Cook]

You need to check your motherboard will support whatever cpu you decide to buy.

Might require a bios flash to be able to use them.

What mobo have you got mate??

 

[Mitchell Smith]

I'm not entirely sure mate, and that's one of the problems. Ask me to work on GPU's, RAM, DVD Drives, but never fiddled with my Mobo/Processor before.

 

[Robin Cook]

either use http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html belarc advisor, should give you a complete rundown of your specs mobo inc i think.

or get a torch and get inside ya case

 

[Christopher Aponte]

I do not think this will fit or work on your motherboard buddy, as this core2duo version is more for Laptops, unless you have a motherboard that support this
i remember reading once a long time ago that socket 478 on desktop is different than the laptop motherboard version, so upgrading to that processor is a no go.

plus your motherboard chipset might be to old to support it, even with a bios update (and also your ramcard might have problems supporting it, if your ramcard is a DDR version)

if I am you, I would upgrade the motherboard completely with a new processor and ramcard (if your ramcard is not a ddr2/3 that is )

 

[Mitchell Smith]

Robin, thanks, I'll get to that in a sec.

Chris, I have 2GB DDR2 RAM. As long as the socket is the same it should work I think, but that's what I'm trying to find out; Laptop Processors usually say "Mobile" I think.

 

[Robin Cook]

Umm tbh i hadnt looked at the links, was waiting till i knew what mobo you had.


the laptop im currently on has a p8400 in it.

but http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...P-Mobile-Processor-226GHz-3MB-Cache-Dual-Core shows the mobile version of the chip as having socket p. rather than 478.

so it all depends on what your mobo supports mate.

 

[Christopher Aponte]

yes normally it says mobile if it is for a laptop when buying, but what I know is that the Pxxxx series are mobile versions. Also the TDP points out that the chip is optimized for mobile use, as desktop has a higher TDP.


and now by checking a bit more on the link that you gave then you noticed the following on the top of the page

Home > Intel® Processors > Intel® Core™2 Duo Mobile Processor > Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor P8000 Series > P8400

you can download and use CPU-Z to check motherboard specifications

 

[Mitchell Smith]

Yeah, "mobile processor". The links weren't for a laptop I double checked - I just wanted to know about the sockets because my current processor I think is the same socket as the one I'm looking to buy, correct?

EDIT: My mistake I didn't notice that.

I'll check my Mobo.

 

[Robin Cook]

Honestly the best thing you can do is to pick up a resonable 775 socket board and get an e5200 or similar. had one of these myself and there cracking overclockers. and as 755 is being fazed out you should be able to pick up a bargain. guessing your hdd will be ide not sata so make sure you have enough ide ports on said mobo

 

[Mitchell Smith]

Processor a 2.60 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4
8 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Hyper-threaded (2 total)


Main Circuit Board
Board: Intel Corporation D865GLC AAC27499-406
Serial Number: BTLC34807667
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: Intel Corp. BF86510A.86A.0049.P11.0310141038 10/14/2003

 

[Robin Cook]

http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d865glc/sb/cs-008974.htm

Processor Support Intel® Pentium® 4 processor, Intel® Celeron® D processor and
Intel® Celeron® processor in the 478-pin package
Note: It is important to verify supported processors before using this Intel® desktop board.





http://www.google.co.uk/products/ca...ihBQ&sa=title&ved=0CBMQ8wIwAjgA&os=tech-specs

much better to go 775 if ya can afford it



eg
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-138-MS

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-340-IN

just an example. better boards out there

 

[Mitchell Smith]

The problem is I'm looking to upgrade to a duel-core.

 

[Robin Cook]

5400 is a dc

with a 775 you could if ya wanted to stick a quadcore in it a year down the line.

got no upgrade path with the 478 socket really. the 775 opens up a lot of choice.

 

[Mitchell Smith]

could you link me to a 5400 please?

I know there are much better boards out there but I'm happy with my current one, there's gotta me a simple duel core processor 478 SOMEWHERE hehe.

 

[Robin Cook]

I did on post ten.

If ya want a dual core get a cheap 775 mobo, if ya wanna stick with your current board your stuck with p4 mate..............................

 

[Mitchell Smith]

Okay ta, I'll see what my Uncle says. Thanks for your help.

 

[Christopher Aponte]

Well I have some bad news
by looking at the motherboard specs, i do not think that only a simple motherboard and processor will do for your system
as you have an motherboard that does not go with current generation (graphics card, ramcard and possibly harddrive)

 

[Mitchell Smith]

I'll sort it out. Thanks for your input guys.