OK, you had me at hello,but really I do have Kimmo Kokkonen permission who did the orig conversion to GTR2, the other two involved were someone he called Uzzi, but he didn't think he'd care as long as it wasn't for money and the the other fellow was someone he called Frank.55, who has passed away. Maybe these names mean something to you, but I think it was before I got into this addiction at any rate Kimmo's idea was to spread the joy. Now that being said I have 2 versions, one that is all asphalt and the other is part dirt and little trickier so if any of you want the orig zips to work on I have them both or try correct what I've done then proceed form there. Myself I'd opt for the start from scratch option. Also if anyone needs the email from Kimmo to publish it on any webs I have that in my archive as well and in closing don't ask me where I got these jewels, it's not that it's a state secret, it's just that I just don't remember, it comes w/ age While I was getting carried away I see Kimmo answered hisself, so now I guess it's official so if anyone want's the zips to play w/ let me know