Myers-Briggs test, personality test

When i did this test, i laughed a little bit, then got scared at how right it was.

I´m an INTJ, basically if you read about the INTJ personality you will pretty much know me and how i work.
Bit scary i have to say.

TEST:
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

description of me,
http://typelogic.com/intj.html

To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence. This self-confidence, sometimes mistaken for simple arrogance by the less decisive, is actually of a very specific rather than a general nature; its source lies in the specialized knowledge systems that most INTJs start building at an early age. When it comes to their own areas of expertise -- and INTJs can have several -- they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how. INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what theydon'tknow.
INTJs are perfectionists, with a seemingly endless capacity for improving upon anything that takes their interest. What prevents them from becoming chronically bogged down in this pursuit of perfection is the pragmatism so characteristic of the type: INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing the INTJ from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake.
INTJs are known as the "Systems Builders" of the types, perhaps in part because they possess the unusual trait combination of imagination and reliability. Whatever system an INTJ happens to be working on is for them the equivalent of a moral cause to an INFJ; both perfectionism and disregard for authority may come into play, as INTJs can be unsparing of both themselves and the others on the project. Anyone considered to be "slacking," including superiors, will lose their respect -- and will generally be made aware of this; INTJs have also been known to take it upon themselves to implement critical decisions without consulting their supervisors or co-workers. On the other hand, they do tend to be scrupulous and even-handed about recognizing the individual contributions that have gone into a project, and have a gift for seizing opportunities which others might not even notice.
In the broadest terms, what INTJs "do" tends to be what they "know". Typical INTJ career choices are in the sciences and engineering, but they can be found wherever a combination of intellect and incisiveness are required (e.g., law, some areas of academia). INTJs can rise to management positions when they are willing to invest time in marketing their abilities as well as enhancing them, and (whether for the sake of ambition or the desire for privacy) many also find it useful to learn to simulate some degree of surface conformism in order to mask their inherent unconventionality.
Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.
This happens in part because many INTJs do not readily grasp the social rituals; for instance, they tend to have little patience and less understanding of such things as small talk and flirtation (which most types consider half the fun of a relationship). To complicate matters, INTJs are usually extremely private people, and can often be naturally impassive as well, which makes them easy to misread and misunderstand. Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense. :) This sometimes results in a peculiar naivete', paralleling that of many Fs -- only instead of expecting inexhaustible affection and empathy from a romantic relationship, the INTJ will expect inexhaustible reasonability and directness.
Probably the strongest INTJ assets in the interpersonal area are their intuitive abilities and their willingness to "work at" a relationship. Although as Ts they do not always have the kind of natural empathy that many Fs do, the Intuitive function can often act as a good substitute by synthesizing the probable meanings behind such things as tone of voice, turn of phrase, and facial expression. This ability can then be honed and directed by consistent, repeated efforts to understand and support those they care about, and those relationships which ultimately do become established with an INTJ tend to be characterized by their robustness, stability, and good communications.

Functional Analysis
by Joe Butt
Introverted iNtuition

INTJs are idea people. Anything is possible; everything is negotiable. Whatever the outer circumstances, INTJs are ever perceiving inner pattern-forms and using real-world materials to operationalize them. Others may see what is and wonder why; INTJs see what might be and say "Why not?!" Paradoxes, antinomies, and other contradictory phenomena aptly express these intuitors' amusement at those whom they feel may be taking a particular view of reality too seriously. INTJs enjoy developing unique solutions to complex problems.
Extraverted Thinking

Thinking in this auxiliary role is a workhorse. Closure is the payoff for efforts expended. Evaluation begs diagnosis; product drives process. As they come to light, Thinking tends, protects, affirms and directs iNtuition's offspring, fully equipping them for fulfilling and useful lives. A faithful pedagogue, Thinking argues not so much on its own behalf, but in defense of its charges. And through this process these impressionable ideas take on the likeness of their master.
Introverted Feeling

Feeling has a modest inner room, two doors down from the Most Imminent iNtuition. It doesn't get out much, but lends its influence on behalf of causes which are Good and Worthy and Humane. We may catch a glimpse of it in the unspoken attitude of good will, or the gracious smile or nod. Some question the existence of Feeling in this type, yet its unseen balance to Thinking is a cardinal dimension in the full measure of the INTJ's soul.
Extraverted Sensing

Sensing serves with a good will, or not at all. As other inferior functions, it has only a rudimentary awareness of context, amount or degree. Thus INTJs sweat the details or, at times, omit them. "I've made up my mind, don't confuse me with the facts" could well have been said by an INTJ on a mission. Sensing's extraverted attitude is evident in this type's bent to savor sensations rather than to merely categorize them. Indiscretions of indulgence are likely an expression of the unconscious vengeance of the inferior.


Famous INTJs:

U.S. Presidents:

Chester A. Arthur
Calvin Coolidge
Thomas Jefferson
John F. Kennedy
James K. Polk
Woodrow Wilson
 
*Looks at the computer monitor: you talkin' to me? *

Wow. I have 2 friends who (oh my) are Psychologists. Scary beings, psychologists. Psychologist friends are even scarier.

Going to an interview where 2 fellas in the the panel are psychologists must be terrifying...Never happened to me, but the thought is scary...and some companies use them. Yikes.

So, how do you feel now? Is the abyss staring back at ya? :D
 
Introverted Sensing Thinking Perceiving
by Marina Margaret Heiss
Profile: ISTP
Revision: 3.0
Date of Revision: 26 Feb 2005
Like their fellow SPs, ISTPs are fundamentally Performers (note the capital 'P' ), but as Ts their areas of interest tend to be mechanical rather than artistic like those of ISFPs, and unlike most ESPs they do not present an impression of constant activity. On the contrary, they lie dormant, saving their energy until a project or an adventure worthy of their time comes along--and then they launch themselves at it. The apparently frenzied state that inevitably ensues is actually much more controlled than it appears--ISTPs always seem to know what they're doing when it comes to physical or mechanical obstacles--but the whole chain of events presents a confusing and paradoxical picture to an outsider.
ISTPs are equally difficult to understand in their need for personal space, which in turn has an impact on their relationships with others. They need to be able to "spread out"--both physically and psychologically--which generally implies encroaching to some degree on others, especially if they decide that something of someone else's is going to become their next project. (They are generally quite comfortable, however, with being treated the same way they treat others--at least in this respect.) But because they need such a lot of flexibility to be as spontaneous as they feel they must be, they tend to become as inflexible as the most rigid J when someone seems to be threatening their lifestyle (although they usually respond with a classic SP rage which is yet another vivid contrast to their "dormant," impassive, detached mode). These territorial considerations are usually critical in relationships with ISTPs; communication also tends to be a key issue, since they generally express themselves non-verbally. When they do actually verbalize, ISTPs are masters of the one-liner, often showing flashes of humor in the most tense situations; this can result in their being seen as thick-skinned or tasteless.
Like most SPs, ISTPs may have trouble with rote and abstract classroom learning, which tend not to be good measures of their actual intelligence. They tend, sometimes with good reason, to be highly skeptical of its practical value, and often gravitate towards classes in industrial arts; part-time vocational/ technical programs can be useful to even the college-bound ISTP. In terms of careers, mechanics and any of the skilled trades are traditional choices, and those ISTPs with strong numerical as well mechanical gifts tend to do extremely well in most areas of engineering. Working as paramedics or firefighters can fulfill the ISTP need to live on the edge; they are at their best in a crisis, where their natural disregard for rules and authority structures allows them to focus on and tackle the emergency at hand in the most effective way.
ISTPs with more sedate careers usually take on high-risk avocations like racing, skydiving, and motorcycling. While aware of the dangers involved, they are so in touch with the physical world that they know they can get away with much smaller safety margins than other types.


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This is scary, for I see myself in that :S
 
@Chronus so you were a INTJ?

Yea isn´t it cool William. If i had a company i would probably hire people based on this sort of stuff rather then what you have done before.

Especially if you have a big company with many different sectors where you need different types of people.
 
ISTJ

Introverted Sensing Thinking Judging
by Joe Butt

Profile: ISTJ
Revision: 3.0
Date of Revision: 27 Feb 2005


"It is in keeping with tradition throughout our history that I should express simply and directly the opinions which I hold concerning some of the matters of present importance." --Herbert Hoover, Inaugural Address, Monday, March 4, 1929.
ISTJs are often called inspectors. They have a keen sense of right and wrong, especially in their area of interest and/or responsibility. They are noted for devotion to duty. Punctuality is a watchword of the ISTJ. The secretary, clerk, or business(wo)man by whom others set their clocks is likely to be an ISTJ.
As do other Introverted Thinkers, ISTJs often give the initial impression of being aloof and perhaps somewhat cold. Effusive expression of emotional warmth is not something that ISTJs do without considerable energy loss.
ISTJs are most at home with "just the facts, Ma'am." They seem to perform at highest efficiency when employing a step-by-step approach. Once a new procedure has proven itself (i.e., has been shown "to work,") the ISTJ can be depended upon to carry it through, even at the expense of their own health.
ISTJs are easily frustrated by the inconsistencies of others, especially when the second parties don't keep their commitments. But they usually keep their feelings to themselves unless they are asked. And when asked, they don't mince words. Truth wins out over tact. The grim determination of the ISTJ vindicates itself in officiation of sports events, judiciary functions, or an other situation which requires making tough calls and sticking to them.
His SJ orientation draws the ISTJ into the service of established institutions. Home, social clubs, government, schools, the military, churches -- these are the bastions of the SJ. "We've always done it this way" is often reason enough for many ISTJs. Threats to time-honored traditions or established organizations (e.g., a "run" on the bank) are the undoing of SJs, and are to be fought at all costs.
Functional Analysis

Due to their natural strengths ISTJs often find themselves in occupations that involve effective control of production process, good understanding of details, clear-cut planning, require responsibility and being an efficient worker. They are found across a wide range of industries and verticals, in organizations of all sizes. ISTJs succeed as military and police workers, engineers, auditors, lawyers, surgeons. They are found in technology companies among those who deal with practical aspects of technology (e.g. implementation specialists). ISTJs make good project managers, mid-rank managers, department heads.

Famous Personalities Sharing Your Type

- Michael Schumacher, a Formula One racing driver
 
Profile: ENFJ
Revision: 3.0
Date of Revision: 23 Feb 2005
ENFJs are the benevolent 'pedagogues' of humanity. They have tremendous charisma by which many are drawn into their nurturant tutelage and/or grand schemes. Many ENFJs have tremendous power to manipulate others with their phenomenal interpersonal skills and unique salesmanship. But it's usually not meant as manipulation -- ENFJs generally believe in their dreams, and see themselves as helpers and enablers, which they usually are.
ENFJs are global learners. They see the big picture. The ENFJs focus is expansive. Some can juggle an amazing number of responsibilities or projects simultaneously. Many ENFJs have tremendous entrepreneurial ability.
ENFJs are, by definition, Js, with whom we associate organization and decisiveness. But they don't resemble the SJs or even the NTJs in organization of the environment nor occasional recalcitrance. ENFJs are organized in the arena of interpersonal affairs. Their offices may or may not be cluttered, but their conclusions (reached through feelings) about people and motives are drawn much more quickly and are more resilient than those of their NFP counterparts.
ENFJs know and appreciate people. Like most NFs, (and Feelers in general), they are apt to neglect themselves and their own needs for the needs of others. They have thinner psychological boundaries than most, and are at risk for being hurt or even abused by less sensitive people. ENFJs often take on more of the burdens of others than they can bear.

Can't find myself in all, but some things are right
 
@Chronus so you were a INTJ?

No.

Yea isn´t it cool William. If i had a company i would probably hire people based on this sort of stuff rather then what you have done before.

This, on face value, seems appropriate.

It may be used, however (I'm sure it is), to prevent perfectly able people from being hired because, in theory, they "will not adapt well" to the social space.

Human nature is too complex to be so conveniently categorized (judged).
 
I did.

I would offer that the test hit (in a broad way) close to home. Nothing astonishing, though - many years ago I did a couple of tests for the airforce and results were convincing enough.

I mistrust Psychology, I admit, probably many hard sciences men and women feel the same way about it.

The results are interesting indeed.

The point I was making was related to the point you made earlier, though.

I took the test, and what do I see now? Same thing: human nature is too complex to be so conveniently categorized.

You are asked to draw a car in 15 seconds, you draw 2 circles for the wheels, a rectangle for the body and a small cube or rectangle for the greenhouse. There is nothing specific about that car representation; people can see that it is a car, certainly will not be able to tell which make it is, which model. Just a car.

Same thing with these tests.

The thought of, as you said, using these tests to decide which people to hire is (no matter how correct it seemingly looks from the standpoint of company management) scary if not outright wrong, and to be honest runs against what we have been saying in 3 other threads. With a twist: it looks logical and "right" if you are the owner of the company or some HR manager, but what if you're on the other side and you really want that job...and find out you've been excluded because some "human-metrics expert" decides you're a loud mouth or too much of an introvert?

Which reminds me: how many geniuses would never be hired (including one A. Einstein) because they are either loners or "too" happy?

My 2 simple and honest cents.
 
On the other hand, it is also interesting to understand how our choices (or how we think about ourselves) impact on how the models try to categorize us.

For self knowledge...hmmm...maybe these Jung-based metrics can help a little? Probably. :)
 
Why so reluctant to saying what you got?

And the hiring part i would easily do, obviously the people searching for the job must have the correct education for it but i would not budge using this to choose who i think would fit for a job.

Interviews is even more uncertain because people will lie out of their own ass if they can.
They will do whatever it takes to get the job, that doesn´t mean they are in any shape or form suited for it.
CV´s is even worse. People are masters at fudging their own CV.

If you think that is bad. Wait until we start with DNA testing.
People won´t hire you if your granddad had a decease that might have been transfered to you etc.

Just as you won´t get a rocket scientist job if you have 80 in IQ,
it doesn´t matter how much you want the job.
 
Do not jump to conclusions so fast, Hampus, my advice to you. I'm not reluctant on anything, I was and still am a bit puzzled how someone who posts so vehement posts about the status quo (powers that be, bankers, Illuminated) would think it is perfectly fine to hire people on the basis of some psychological test (hey, why not a Rorschach test?). Hence my posts focusing on that and not on the test itself (which I find interesting nonetheless).

Btw, INTP. Satisfied?

----

People who fudge their CVs sooner or later stumble on themselves and are kicked out.

As for DNA testing...Some insurance companies are already using DNA testing to judge whether a person is insurable or not - or how much will it cost the person to get an insurance. I think this has been one of the worst moments in human societies, allowing people to go without insurance because the company is allowed to peek into their DNA.

Which is totally different from having an IQ of 80 for a top science job. You either have your qualifications for the job or not. If you haven't, you still get a chance (for a lot of companies) if your track record proves you have the knowledge and experience in that area of expertise (I know psychologists and teachers working as programmers at R&D for Siemens and Alcatel). An IQ of 80 will certainly prevent you from grasping complex concepts and the mathematics that go with top science jobs - such a person would find it extremely hard to get a career in IT let alone in science related fields.

As this is your thread, and this thread is about the test, I will again say this is an interesting test with some curious...er..twists.
 
Do not jump to conclusions so fast, Hampus,

Btw, INTP. Satisfied?
Yes!
And i don´t jump to conclusions fast. It felt like i had to drag it out of you.

For example, "Were you INTJ?" "No..." "Did you do the test?" "Yes..."
Any other person who did the test would say "No, i was a XXXX" or "Yes i did the test, i was XXXX"

We know you found it interesting but somewhat useless, that´s fine, all i wanted to know was what you got.
No more no less.
 
INTP (Chronus)

INTPs are pensive, analytical folks. They may venture so deeply into thought as to seem detached, and often actually are oblivious to the world around them.
Precise about their descriptions, INTPs will often correct others (or be sorely tempted to) if the shade of meaning is a bit off. While annoying to the less concise, this fine discrimination ability gives INTPs so inclined a natural advantage as, for example, grammarians and linguists.
INTPs are relatively easy-going and amenable to almost anything until their principles are violated, about which they may become outspoken and inflexible. They prefer to return, however, to a reserved albeit benign ambiance, not wishing to make spectacles of themselves.
A major concern for INTPs is the haunting sense of impending failure. They spend considerable time second-guessing themselves. The open-endedness (from Perceiving) conjoined with the need for competence (NT) is expressed in a sense that one's conclusion may well be met by an equally plausible alternative solution, and that, after all, one may very well have overlooked some critical bit of data. An INTP arguing a point may very well be trying to convince himself as much as his opposition. In this way INTPs are markedly different from INTJs, who are much more confident in their competence and willing to act on their convictions.
Mathematics is a system where many INTPs love to play, similarly languages, computer systems--potentially any complex system. INTPs thrive on systems. Understanding, exploring, mastering, and manipulating systems can overtake the INTP's conscious thought. This fascination for logical wholes and their inner workings is often expressed in a detachment from the environment, a concentration where time is forgotten and extraneous stimuli are held at bay. Accomplishing a task or goal with this knowledge is secondary.
INTPs and Logic -- One of the tipoffs that a person is an INTP is her obsession with logical correctness. Errors are not often due to poor logic -- apparent faux pas in reasoning are usually a result of overlooking details or of incorrect context.
Games NTs seem to especially enjoy include Risk, Bridge, Stratego, Chess, Go, and word gamesof all sorts. (I have an ENTP friend that loves Boggle and its variations. We've been known to sit in public places and pick a word off a menu or mayonnaise jar to see who can make the most words from its letters on a napkin in two minutes.) The INTP mailing list has enjoyed a round ofMetaphore, virtual volleyball, and a few 'finish the series' brain teasers.
INTPs in the main are not clannish. The INTP mailing list, with a readership now in triple figures, was in its incipience fraught with all the difficulties of the Panama canal: we had trouble deciding:
whether or not there should be such a group,
exactly what such a group should be called, and
which of us would have to take the responsibility for organization and maintenance of the aforesaid group/club/whatever.
 
Errr....I don't want to cast a cloud here but....
OK, Ive not done this test yet, BUT, reading the quote boxes of differing results, I see a bit of myself in each of them....
Which has me thinking it's kind of like Astrology- written in such away as to have you thinking, "hey that sounds like me", "dunno about that bit", "oh, I'm definitely that!" & "hmmmm....sometimes"....
Has anyone else read through this but not done the test & feel the same way?
Just curious is all....

BTW, why did you give in so soon Chronus?
I was having a grand old giggle seeing how far you could put off the big reveal!:p:sneaky:
Kept me coming back for the next night's episode....
:roflmao:
 
Do the test and see. And answer as honest as you possibly can.

Sometimes people have a tendency to answer stuff where they "want it to be" like that.
Instead of just saying how it really is and what you really would have done.
 
Errr....I don't want to cast a cloud here but....
OK, Ive not done this test yet, BUT, reading the quote boxes of differing results, I see a bit of myself in each of them....

Hmmm...I see what you mean. After taking the test I looked at several profiles and I think it's most likely we share traits with several types.


BTW, why did you give in so soon Chronus?
I was having a grand old giggle seeing how far you could put off the big reveal!:p:sneaky:
Kept me coming back for the next night's episode....
:roflmao:

Ah! :laugh:

Hampus is blindingly powerful, I had to give in...
 

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