Introducing the Toyota Celica ST185 for Assetto Corsa

[Paul Jeffrey]

Reveal number four from the upcoming Ready to Race DLC for Assetto Corsa - presenting something slightly different in the form of the Toyota Celica ST185 WRC contender.

We fans are by now well aware that the next car pack from Kunos Simulazioni will be the 10 car strong 'Ready to Race' DLC, designed specifically for fans of racing vehicles and containing a nice mix of modern and historic machinery.

One of the more surprising inclusions into the pack comes in the form of the hugely successful WRC specification Toyota Celica ST185 featured in this article. With Assetto Corsa not particularly known for its loose surface simulation prowess, it is perhaps a little surprising to some to see such an iconic World Rally Championship car finding its way into the game as official paid content. Of course we had the venerable Audi Quattro as free content a few weeks ago, and many at the time thought that would be the beginning of the end for studio released rally spec cars.... not so according to Kunos.

With killer good looks and one of the best paint jobs in motorsport, the Celica could well be a real treat to behold once the 'Ready to Race' DLC pack goes live on Thursday.

Alongside the images revealed by Kunos today, the Italians are keeping up the tradition of writing a few short words about the car, which can be read below:

The Toyota Celica ST185 is Toyota's most successful rally car, winning the WRC Driver's Championship in 1992, and the WRC Manufacturer's and Driver's Championships in both 1993 and 1994.

In order to meet the Group A competition's homologation requirements, 5,000 GT-Four RC production versions of the Celica were manufactured, starting from September 1989.

The Toyota Celica ST185 made its debut at the Monte Carlo Rally, the opening round of the 1992 World Rally Championship series, but it wasn't until mid-season did it then become successful

Ready to Race DLC Contents:

• Audi R8 LMS 2016
  
• Audi R18 e-tron Quattro
  
• Audi TT Cup 2016
  
• Audi TT RS (VLN)
  
• Lotus 3-Eleven
  
• Maserati MC12 GT1
  
• McLaren 570S
  
• McLaren P1 GTR
  
• Toyota Celica ST185 Turbo
• Toyota TS040 Hybrid

Alongside the new DLC pack will come the version 1.14 game update which looks set to contain a number of new and improved features. As a little teaser Kunos have revealed some of the following changes will be included in the new build release:

• Added wind algorithm
  
• Added AI Aggression selection
  
• More AI differences within a single lap to generate more battles
  
• Added AI wing setup variations
  
• New AI algorithms for understeer detection and downshifting
  
• Improved Downshift Protection
  
• Updated Steam statistic reader to synchronize steam achievement

Assetto Corsa is a racing simulation designed by Kunos Simulazioni and is available for Xbox One, PlayStation 4 and PC. The 'Ready to Race' DLC is scheduled to launch on Thursday 18th May.

Oh boy do we like mods! If you do too then we have you covered with our fantastic Assetto Corsa modding archive. From downloads to a place for mod discussion, we have it all for you to enjoy, check it out today! If you don't fancy trying out some of the awesome community created tracks and cars then drop in on our Assetto Corsa sub forum to chat about the game with your fellow fans. Interaction and threads make forums fun, so start one today!

We hold regular league and club racing events across a variety of content found within the game, however to celebrate this mega new inclusion to Assetto Corsa we are holding a very special on off GT1 specification race on Sunday 21st May. Sign up here and get yourself in on the action.

Looking forward to some sideways action? How do you feel about prominent rally cars being added to Assetto Corsa? Would you like to see an official Kunos created rally stage to test the car on? Let us know in the comments section below!

 

[Cheesenium]

What about the C9 same category as the mazda 787b and porsche 962 short tail and still failing to make it able to compete with them

That's another problem, they never BoP their classes.

Essentially, they find what they have and toss it into the game without planning how to make them fit.

If R3E can more or less balance their Group A with old cars like the 635i or 240 with the R32 monster, I do think Kunos needs some sort of default weight ballast for their classes. Doubt they care at this stage so here's more cars with no friends or basic balance! The basic BoP doesn't even have to ultra competitive for league play, just make them more or less fast enough and that's ok for some offline or casual racing.

 

[ronniej]

A3DR just threw down and slapped it on the table! Boom.

 

[Albert McSaltens]

That's another problem, they never BoP their classes.

Essentially, they find what they have and toss it into the game without planning how to make them fit.

If R3E can more or less balance their Group A with old cars like the 635i or 240 with the R32 monster, I do think Kunos needs some sort of default weight ballast for their classes. Doubt they care at this stage so here's more cars with no friends or basic balance! The basic BoP doesn't even have to ultra competitive for league play, just make them more or less fast enough and that's ok for some offline or casual racing.

Well they did not have any other group C back then but the decision to put a lemans Aero c9 in a game with no leamns track, and most of their track being higher downforce tracks, it's just nonsense

 

[Stereo]

I guess if you want a racing game instead of a simulator that's fine but I prefer AC to have simulated physics thanks. Which means the C9 and 787B and 962 longtail are not really equal even if they're all "group c le mans winner"

 

[Cheesenium]

Well they did not have any other group C back then but the decision to put a lemans Aero c9 in a game with no leamns track, and most of their track being higher downforce tracks, it's just nonsense

They could had done something to make them more equal. The high downforce and low downforce configuration has very minor difference, they could just update it to low downforce in a patch but that will be some extra work for them.

At the end, might as well just balance it with their excellent MP exclusive ballast for everyone with a default setting for each class.

I guess if you want a racing game instead of a simulator that's fine but I prefer AC to have simulated physics thanks. Which means the C9 and 787B and 962 longtail are not really equal even if they're all "group c le mans winner"

Having good physics is not an excuse for an absolutely terrible car selection and classing. Most games can bring decent car classes and still offer good physics. Kunos is just lazy.

 

[Albert McSaltens]

They could had done something to make them more equal. The high downforce and low downforce configuration has very minor difference, they could just update it to low downforce in a patch but that will be some extra work for them.

At the end, might as well just balance it with their excellent MP exclusive ballast for everyone with a default setting for each class.



Having good physics is not an excuse for an absolutely terrible car selection and classing. Most games can bring decent car classes and still offer good physics. Kunos is just lazy.

no way, what they should do is do the sprint verison of the c9 and belive me it's not minor diference , its like 10 second diference

 

[Cheesenium]

no way, what they should do is do the sprint verison of the c9 and belive me it's not minor diference , its like 10 second diference

If they really want to, they can sandbag the sprint version to be roughly as fast as the C9 or reduce the restrictor for the C9 so its faster at something. Doing the sprint version would probably need to go through approvals with a new model which are more work for them. They won't do it at the end considering even having a default BoP is not possible for them.

Minor or major differences won't matter to them, they will still keep tossing out random cars that do not go well with the existing content. The Long Tail 962C goes quite well with C9, IMHO despite it is not the best as C9 is indeed slow.

All and all, so many classes in the game are just a random collection of cars with fairly large performance discrepancy in them that really made them not fun to race. I bet the Toyota and Audi LMP1 will be much slower than the 919 since Kunos never have any sort of default BoP in their cars.

 

[Lorenzo Bonder]

I'm trying to figure out what the C9 has to to with the Celica?

ON TOPIC PLEASE.

Don't make me post again warning.

 

[TheReaper GT]

Mod Edit: Off topic you was warned by Lorenzo in the previous post...

 

[St3fan]

Mod edit off Topic... I suggest you listen to when a staff member ask nicely...

 

[Cheesenium]

Mod Edit :Off topic

When a staff member ask you to stay on topic please do.

 

[St3fan]

Because many of the content does not go well with the existing content. The Escort is just too fast for the GTA, the C9 is too slow against the newer Group C, the 3 GT1s does not even compete in the same 5 years among each other and the list goes on. There is only one Group 5, one Group 6, one Can-Am and the list go on that they have nothing to race with despite they have the license to bring in more. Is this a hot lap simulator or Your Racing Simulator?Part of the problem is Kunos never tried to balance the cars in a class like various game did while the other part is on how they licensed content as no amount of sand bagging will make a Mclaren F1 GT1 have roughly the same pace as a 911 GT1. Why not just license a 1996 911 GT1 so the Mclaren F1 GT1 has something to race with?

Kunos could have planned out what they could expand in the future while trying to avoid bringing so many single cars. Then, license the right cars to fit with the existing content that other developers had been doing. Evidently, they never did, considering the amount of Evoras in the game(and still can't offer an Espirit in AC) while missing out some of the most iconic Porsches like 929, Carrera GT and so on. They license whatever content they can get their hands on without thinking about how to fit them to the existing game. Then, release them a year or so later if not never.

Some of these are unavoidable like the German hill climbs in R3E, various orphaned class in pcars(Group 6, WTCC and so on) but it is difficult to think of a game that has so many mismatched contents in a game. Pretty much the only well-expanded class in AC is GT3 and the really well done single makes while everything else tossed into random classes that really brings out awful racing experiences.

There is nothing to do with the physics or art people when it comes to licensing the right content. It just Kunos had been licensing random cars for years without thinking about how to fit them. The art and physics people only work on the content when it is licensed, not before the specific car is licensed because it would be a waste of money when they could not obtain the car that they are working on for whatever reasons. What is the point of putting a risk in working on something that is not licensed yet? With exceptions with the mod cars that AC had been releasing where Kunos seek for the license to release them. Hence, Stefano would not work on the 250GTO without the car's license in hand unless they are really that disorganized like how they license their cars.

Going back to the argument about keeping people with their jobs, what about all the content promised in the past? Such as the Afla Romeo 33 Daytona, Rufs, rumored Corvettes, Ford GT GT3, various Lamborghini, SCG's road cars and so on? Shouldn't they be working on those cars or it is tossed out of the window then work on unconfirmed licensed content? That does not make any sense at all. Pretty sure those prior cars licensing are done and licensed before they mention about them in public.

This just shows that Kunos had no foresight if not planning on how their content will expand which I hope they will improve this in AC2.

There are simply way too many things you got wrong. Couldn't even be bothered pointing them out. The only reason I replied in the first place was that I owned a Celica, and you are just unreasonable saying contents are terrible. Have a nice day.

 

[Cheesenium]

There are simply way too many things you got wrong. Couldn't even be bothered pointing them out. The only reason I replied in the first place was that I owned a Celica, and you are just unreasonable saying contents are terrible. Have a nice day.

Have a nice day. I do not think I am wrong but the fact is, Kunos is great in licensing manufacturers, terrible in picking the right cars to expand the game's content.

I do not mind the Celica but I am pretty pleased to see it as I'll probably drive it with the various road cars like the Quattro. Probably a blast too since it had been years since I see one in a game.

Mod edit:

 

[3ller]

This car is WRONG, mostly the rear, but headlight size is wrong too, and overall front proportions are off.
Don't get me started on that rear window, I can't believe they missed the black frame.

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Looks like this was done by the same guy who did the AE86.

OMG the exterior is so wrong all the proportions are bad the bonnet needs to be lower and longer the vent gap on the front is more sided located the ligths are wrong size too and the rear windshield and rear of the car is just waaaaaay too much!!

 

[Rupe Wilson]

OK guys may of been a bit harsh but stay on topic...
So if your post has been edited consider that a warning to stay on topic... and do not alter my edits ...
as that will incur a weeks ban...
the last few days you all have not listened to simple requests for staff.. Now i have to also get involved..

Introducing the Toyota Celica ST185 for Assetto Corsa

i'm not interested in other classes of cars or what other tracks you want in the game in this thread.
You can always make your own threads to discuss this, please do


with thanks Rupe..

 

[Allan Ramsbottom]

I owned the Carlos Sainz special edition 4wd 4ws back in the day,then upgraded to the Gen 6, GT4 which was a whole diff ball game,be good to see what it can do.

 

[Charles Amyouni]

Not accurate - typical Kunos. Just remember their Z4 GT3 made me cry.

 

[TheReaper GT]

Holy crap, did a moderator just edited a lot of posts without any kind of offenses just because he can? That's how communities lose members... It's not the first time the same moderator does that... a real shame.

 

[Cheesenium]

Holy crap, did a moderator just edited a lot of posts without any kind of offenses just because he can? That's how communities lose members... It's not the first time the same moderator does that... a real shame.

Even a bit of criticism is not allowed, how much Kunos wants to protect their brand reputation? Can't criticize AC on their forums, now, not even in RD. Meanwhile, the mods let the haters go wild on other games. This is what fairness is, i guess.

 

[unknwn]

Even a bit of criticism is not allowed, how much Kunos wants to protect their brand reputation? Can't criticize AC on their forums, now, not even in RD. Meanwhile, the mods let the haters go wild on other games. This is what fairness is, i guess.

What are you smoking?
Going back through the edited thread the criticism regarding classes/content selection is still clearly present. How is that "Even a bit of criticism is not allowed"?