Austria Feedback

[Jernej Simončič]

I mean sorry if I sound rude, I'm really thankful about all your work with conversion and the fixes, I'm just really unhappy with the version and if it's fixable, we should use the other track, but in the end I hope with graphic fixes I'll slowly accept that we are racing here...

 

[michele d'alessandro]

In my opinion this track model is really bad. I'm used to the good old ISI A1 Ring model and I really think that we should use RaceFactor version, which is based on that model.

The layout of the track, which is on the server now, is totally off, most of the corners are completely wrong, the model looks like it was done for some arcade game with mind set on just giving the impression of it being redbull ring. And the surface is terrible.

Look at this and drive one lap on the version which is on the server now. It's barely the same track.

I beg you to use RaceFactor version. Please. I was really looking forward to finally race Austria again, but if we use the current model, I don't really see any point in testing.

I agree about t1-8-9 but others turns I don't think this layout is worst than racefactor's layout

 

[Teemu Valkeejärvi]

In my opinion this track model is really bad. I'm used to the good old ISI A1 Ring model and I really think that we should use RaceFactor version, which is based on that model.

The layout of the track, which is on the server now, is totally off, most of the corners are completely wrong, the model looks like it was done for some arcade game with mind set on just giving the impression of it being redbull ring. And the surface is terrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GrI6f0av9Y Look at this and drive one lap on the version which is on the server now. It's barely the same track.

I beg you to use RaceFactor version. Please. I was really looking forward to finally race Austria again, but if we use the current model, I don't really see any point in testing.

That RacerFactor's version is nowhere near the real track, the elevation changes for an example are very very wrong. The layout, elevation changes and kerbs of the track we are currently using are much more accurate, it's pretty similar with the Reiza's track and that's the most accurate version of Red Bull Ring out there in any sim atm, just a shame rF2 collision physics have those issues.

 

[Ho3n3r]

Between 5 degree to 30 degree elevation changes in 2 metres, and slightly shorter straights, I choose slightly shorter straights. The version JES chose isn't perfect - but none of them are. It's the lesser of 2 (or more) evils.

 

[Jernej Simončič]

Yeah on straights there are 2-3 places with weird elevation, but corners are much much much nicer to drive, I'm really surprised to find such disagreement about that. It's much smoother. Is it possible to make the surface of our version smoother in places? And the green tarmac beyond the kerbs is really low grip.

 

[ChazmR]

Thats called astroturf, its not tarmac and is supposed to be incredibly slippy.

 

[John-Eric Saxén]

There is a problem that realroad doesn't extend over curbs/astro over this track, so I might add few % grip to those. Update for trees should be out before tonight's test so we can test that.

 

[John-Eric Saxén]

Updated version out for today's test:

-Visibility grouping for background trees (use detail level High to reduce, Medium to disable)
-Added some dynamic shadows
-Re-exported some buggy objects
-Added small amount of extra grip to curbs and astro since they have no realroad support
-Added some more grip for grass
-Corrected race lap count

Downloads
Austria Test: http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/fsr-2015-mod-download.101225/

 

[Georg Winter]

I mean sorry if I sound rude, I'm really thankful about all your work with conversion and the fixes, I'm just really unhappy with the version and if it's fixable, we should use the other track, but in the end I hope with graphic fixes I'll slowly accept that we are racing here...

Are you happy if we name it A2 Coca Cola Ring and say its a Fantasy track?

 

[Jernej Simončič]

Or maybe Torro Rosso ring. Nvm, my battle is over, noone agrees with me, happens sometimes in life. Well, 25 points awaiting at any track version

 

[Dmitry Zaharov]

Dat pit exit wall...

 

[ChazmR]

Grip seems really high especially in middle sector.

 

[David Dominguez]

-Added small amount of extra grip to curbs and astro since they have no realroad support

It's been a long time since I edited tracks, but if I'm not wrong realroad is activated just adding the prefix "RaceSurface_" to the object.

 

[John-Eric Saxén]

Nice test, only new issue I discovered was some bug with start lights. Compounds updated:

http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/2015-tyre-compounds-thread.102937/#post-1966137

Indeed it should be possible to add realroad if curbs and grass are not mapped together to same object, will check that.

 

[Kerni094]

Nice test, only new issue I discovered was some bug with start lights. Compounds updated:

http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/2015-tyre-compounds-thread.102937/#post-1966137

Indeed it should be possible to add realroad if curbs and grass are not mapped together to same object, will check that.

Tested the new version and it is already a lot better. However I still have small problem in the last 2 turns. It seems like the spectators placed around the track are still causing some fps drops. On most other tracks their amount is lowered if you reduce track details. Is it maybe possible to remove them at least partly on low settings?

 

[John-Eric Saxén]

The spectators are 2D dolls that have basically no impact on FPS, I think it's the trees and bushes in S3 causing the issue. I have to remove them 1 by 1, we'll see. Today I fixed some low grip on pit exit grass and start lights bug, next is DRS zones.

 

[Jernej Simončič]

I crashed into the grass today going out of turn 2. I took screens but they didn't get saved... Just after the t2 exit outside kerb ends, there's a change in grass material and the front left sank into grass and in the next moment I lost rear wing and then I was flying into the air.


Edit: ah I see now something similar already posted on 1st page..

 

[Kerni094]

The spectators are 2D dolls that have basically no impact on FPS, I think it's the trees and bushes in S3 causing the issue. I have to remove them 1 by 1, we'll see. Today I fixed some low grip on pit exit grass and start lights bug, next is DRS zones.

Ok sounds good. You really put a lot of effort into those tracks .

 

[Dmitry Zaharov]

Is going wide in T1 allowed or not? I see many drivers go there, Shumacher 2003 pole is prime example.

 

[Ho3n3r]

Is going wide in T1 allowed or not? I see many drivers go there, Shumacher 2003 pole is prime example.

The anticut is big enough to prevent people from going there on purpose I think. It's not the same as back then with clear track and no stopping measures whatsoever.