AC Tyre model

Kimmo Kokkonen · Dec 7, 2016

One word, Perfect!!!

Yesterday I installed AC back to my PC and noticed immediately that something most annoying thing in AC has gone, I mean slipping 'n sliding not available anymore, wow. This might be no news for you but I just noticed new DLC's and there was my dream car 917 WIP and so many new mods so I tried AC first time since not even remember, this was a big and very welcome surprise!

Thank you AC team, you listened to us.

My experience: I can feel the REALISTIC grip with default setup, I can feel The GRIP!!! I have never asked FURTHER!!!

Thank You!!!

ouvert · Dec 7, 2016

compared to 1.9/1.10 version? (where slide and slipp is still present .. if you talk about that weird feeling like you have plenty of grip but it feels like there is wet road or something even with heated tyres) not sure what version is latest one

William Levesque · Dec 7, 2016

This post confuses me.

tlsmikey · Dec 7, 2016

I think he's talking about v7 tire model vs v10. The v10 was a major step up in realism and feel. It's totally changed how the cars drive and feel now. I really like what they've done with v10. It could still use a little tweak on the GT3 cars, but its very good now.

William Levesque · Dec 7, 2016

I dont think it changed much tbh, at least not on the street cars

ouvert · Dec 7, 2016

well changing camber now do something and temps are better too

Stelios · Dec 7, 2016

Oh, the guy whos drag strip track was stolen from Kunos is back

Kimmo Kokkonen · Dec 7, 2016

Sorry but I never follow any tyre model versions so i can't say what was the previous model, but last time it was horrible and now it's perfect, or almost perfect...because there's one thing I still can't understant

[SURFACE_2]
KEY=TRM-ZNDV
FRICTION=0.98

So the best track surface grip in Zandvoort is only 0.98 (friction), but I think it should be always at least 1.00. Then when your tires warm up so the grip even improving. Also more "rubber" makes more grip but the zero point should be 1.00, that's the grip for Track Tarmac. I just can't understant why all other games have this 1.00 value but this AC has it's own values lower than 1, maybe they have some reasons for that. But Tyre model is great if we compare it to previous AC like 1 year ago...2015 tyre model / grip sucks as it feels like ice, the car just sliding all over on the track.

One more thing I wanna say, this grip thing and driving experience is the most important thing for driver, some of you are happy just because of eye candy, right? Of course you can make setups to avoid low grip, but I believe that the first feedback about driving are the most important, if you like it before any of your own custom setups so then its good, so now I like AC and will spend some time with setups.

And driving fast is not easier with this better grip, no, it just feels better, it's more realistic, you can't drive too fast to the corner so there's no unrealictic grip available. Earlier driving with default setup was impossible.

Kimmo Kokkonen · Dec 7, 2016

Stelios said:
Oh, the guy whos drag strip track was stolen from Kunos is back

That's all you can remember? You little boy...

Epistolarius · Dec 8, 2016

William Levesque said:
I dont think it changed much tbh, at least not on the street cars

Well, most street cars don't have v10 tyres yet. But I'd have to disagree, I think cars like the P1, LaFerrari drive noticeably different with v10 in my opinion. But, I'm not a Pro driver by any means.

Leigh Nielsen · Dec 9, 2016

v10 is a step in the right direction IMHO. It might be my crappy driving style, but I get the feeling there is too much yaw movement. Feels like the tyre walls are made of elastic. The tread stays on the road but the rest of the vehicle moves way too much.
Tried the Caterham around Black Cat county and in the tight section it felt like the body was 45 degrees to the tread!

Epistolarius · Dec 9, 2016

The Caterham mod doesn't have V10 tyres? It hasn't been updated in a long while.

David Dominguez · Dec 9, 2016

I wish some day they would announce a new tyre model, and change nothing on the physics. The forum comments would be priceless

Andy_J · Dec 9, 2016

Kimmo Kokkonen said:
So the best track surface grip in Zandvoort is only 0.98 (friction), but I think it should be always at least 1.00.

I must have missed the news, is Zandvoort in AC now? Official track?

AadHofman · Dec 9, 2016

Andy Jackson said:
I must have missed the news, is Zandvoort in AC now? Official track?

Yup, you certainly missed the boat on that one.

Andy_J · Dec 9, 2016

AadHofman said:
Yup, you certainly missed the boat on that one.

Well thats great. I don't often play AC as it's down at number 5 on my race sim list but I love Zandvoort. I'll have to dig it out tonight and have a blast around in the Alfa Romeo 55.

ouvert · Dec 9, 2016

Andy Jackson said:
I must have missed the news, is Zandvoort in AC now? Official track?

The only non-laser scanned track in AC... Good quality though

Emery · Dec 9, 2016

ouvert said:
The only non-laser scanned track in AC... Good quality though

Apart from the fantasy tracks <cough>.

ouvert · Dec 9, 2016

Emery said:
Apart from the fantasy tracks <cough>.

Oh you are right.. Only considered race tracks, forget about those

tlsmikey · Dec 9, 2016

Red Time said:
v10 is a step in the right direction IMHO. It might be my crappy driving style, but I get the feeling there is too much yaw movement. Feels like the tyre walls are made of elastic. The tread stays on the road but the rest of the vehicle moves way too much.
Tried the Caterham around Black Cat county and in the tight section it felt like the body was 45 degrees to the tread!

Yeah, agree with you 100%. The yaw movement is odd. Almost twitchy, but too much of it.