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Will it be Laffite, Tyrrell, McLaren or Williams
don't be so harsh, Binder did score ~8.5% of the team's points after all
Really happy with Brabham's reliability this season.
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What a super, super day. A calm and collected drive by Keke and Nigel has netted us a big, big win. We definitely were lucky, you can't say you won on merit when 2 Ferraris, 2 Tyrrells, one Williams and Latiffe all retired, some of which were ahead of us when they retired. But at the same time we were in the right place at the right time. The car is working wonderfully well and we'll be looking at using the momentum we have to secure another place or two in the standings by the final race in the US.
What a super, super day. A calm and collected drive by Keke and Nigel has netted us a big, big win. We definitely were lucky, you can't say you won on merit when 2 Ferraris, 2 Tyrrells, one Williams and Latiffe all retired, some of which were ahead of us when they retired. But at the same time we were in the right place at the right time. The car is working wonderfully well and we'll be looking at using the momentum we have to secure another place or two in the standings by the final race in the US.
1980 Italian Grand Prix
Previous round at Zandvoort saw a number of top drivers retire, allowing McLaren to take a brilliant 1-3 finish. Both Ferraris and Tyrrells retiring and Arrows and Williams taking only five points in total saw the battle for second in the constructors swing quite a lot. With only three races to go Arrows, Tyrrell, Williams and McLaren are all within six points so every point matters now. Ferrari is still leading the championship, their lead over Arrows is 32 points. With only 45 to points to grab this season, the Maranello outfit has a chance to secure constructor's title on their home ground here in Imola.
In the contructors, behind the top teams, the battle for sixth is heating up too. Shadow and Brabham were the early favourites to claim sixth this season but both have faded badly in the second half. Meanwhile Lotus, Fittipaldi and Ligier have showed improvements as the season has progressed and the five teams are within two points at the moment.
Pre-qualifying
Tambay on top, Takahara second and Wolves in 3rd and 4th. Nothing extraordinary in the top-4 if Zunino beating Hunt isn't regarded as such. Héctor Rebaque was fifth fastest while Zorzi had one of his better performances this season in sixth. His compatriot de Cesaris though has to be disappointed after being almost a second slower than the second slowest driver Lammers on his home circuit.
Qualifying
The main stands were all red as the tifosi celebrated a Ferrari pole. Alan Jones took his fifth pole of the season after defeating Williams' Nelson Piquet by two tenths of a second. Niki Lauda was third fastest for Fittipaldi, surprising everyone on the paddock. This was his best qualifying result since joining Fittipaldi at the start of 1979.
Winner of the previous race in the Netherlands, Rosberg was fourth fastest. Reutemann put the second Ferrari to fifth while Tambay would start alongside him. The Frenchman has clearly had a breakthrough with his car setup since last round's pre-qualifying. Teammate Takahara though was only 25th fastest.
Championship leader Laffite was 7th fastest and rounding out the top-10 were Villeneuve, de Angelis and Prost. De Angelis, as the best placed Italian being only 9th fastest was not particularly pleasing for the fanatic home crowd. Other drivers with largely unspectacular drives included Scheckter, Pironi, Mansell, Binder and Ickx. Scheckter was fastest of the five in 13th while Ickx was 27th fastest, equaling a disqualification from the race.
Race
Reutemann got a nice start and climbed to third by the first corner. Jones and Piquet remained in the lead. Lauda, Rosberg, Laffite, Tambay, de Angelis, Depailler and Villeneuve completed the top-10 after first lap which saw no incidents. Pironi got up to 11th while teammate Scheckter had none of it dropping to 17th.
First retirement of the race came on lap 5 when Villeneuve got a puncture. Another driver struggling was Rosberg who had had to let Laffite and Tambay by. Depailler was now behind him in 8th - a great day for Fittipaldi so far. Four laps later Rosberg regained a place in the points as Laffite retired, meaning another terrible blow for his title hopes. Remember, Ferraris were still on position one and three.
Pits tops around lap 20 of 60 allowed Piquet to lead briefly. Leaders who pitted earlier
came out behind Tambay and were held up badly, packing the group together. Jones had a very hard time getting past Tambay, allowing Piquet to extend his lead. By the time Piquet made his stop, he returned ahead of Tambay, effectively taking the lead from Jones at the same time. Wonderful job by the Williams pit crew!
By the time every driver had made their pit stops, the running orderd on lap 36 was the following: Piquet leading Jones by six seconds. Tambay and Reutemann battling for third but already 22 seconds behind Jones. Rosberg in fifth seven seconds behind and de Angelis in sixth five seconds behind Rosberg. Prost, Depailler and the Tyrrells were further behind. And even more further behind on P16-17 were Binder and Mansell - the fifth and third placed drivers at Zandvoort.
Rosberg reported a similar problem as Laffite had done 30 laps earlier and retired from P5. This allowed Prost to take 6th but would the rookie hold his nerve this time? In fact he did and did so magnificently as he caught and fought de Angelis in the closing laps but wasn't able to make the pass for fifth. Reutemann however was able to make his pass on Tambay on lap 52. By that thime he was already over 50 seconds down on the leading duo and so all he could was to cruise until finish.
First driver to cross the line however was Nelson Piquet who took his first win of the season after a truly brilliant drive. The Brazilian perhaps never was the fastest driver on track but had by far the best strategy and that was enough today. Jones and Reutemann had solid drives for 2nd and 3rd but still there was a sense of disappointment in the Ferrari garage and among the fans. Everyone had expected a Ferrari show today.
The result however means that Reutemann will retake the championship lead with one point over rivals Laffite and Jones. He has however already scored four times in the second half so the advantage is ever so slightly on the other two. Nelson Piquet's win help him grab fourth place in the championship as he has now scored five times in six races, he is out of the championship battle despite being only 13 points behind. In the constructors Williams takes second after all rival teams fail to score points today.
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Previous round at Zandvoort saw a number of top drivers retire, allowing McLaren to take a brilliant 1-3 finish. Both Ferraris and Tyrrells retiring and Arrows and Williams taking only five points in total saw the battle for second in the constructors swing quite a lot. With only three races to go Arrows, Tyrrell, Williams and McLaren are all within six points so every point matters now. Ferrari is still leading the championship, their lead over Arrows is 32 points. With only 45 to points to grab this season, the Maranello outfit has a chance to secure constructor's title on their home ground here in Imola.
In the contructors, behind the top teams, the battle for sixth is heating up too. Shadow and Brabham were the early favourites to claim sixth this season but both have faded badly in the second half. Meanwhile Lotus, Fittipaldi and Ligier have showed improvements as the season has progressed and the five teams are within two points at the moment.
Pre-qualifying
Tambay on top, Takahara second and Wolves in 3rd and 4th. Nothing extraordinary in the top-4 if Zunino beating Hunt isn't regarded as such. Héctor Rebaque was fifth fastest while Zorzi had one of his better performances this season in sixth. His compatriot de Cesaris though has to be disappointed after being almost a second slower than the second slowest driver Lammers on his home circuit.
Qualifying
The main stands were all red as the tifosi celebrated a Ferrari pole. Alan Jones took his fifth pole of the season after defeating Williams' Nelson Piquet by two tenths of a second. Niki Lauda was third fastest for Fittipaldi, surprising everyone on the paddock. This was his best qualifying result since joining Fittipaldi at the start of 1979.
Winner of the previous race in the Netherlands, Rosberg was fourth fastest. Reutemann put the second Ferrari to fifth while Tambay would start alongside him. The Frenchman has clearly had a breakthrough with his car setup since last round's pre-qualifying. Teammate Takahara though was only 25th fastest.
Championship leader Laffite was 7th fastest and rounding out the top-10 were Villeneuve, de Angelis and Prost. De Angelis, as the best placed Italian being only 9th fastest was not particularly pleasing for the fanatic home crowd. Other drivers with largely unspectacular drives included Scheckter, Pironi, Mansell, Binder and Ickx. Scheckter was fastest of the five in 13th while Ickx was 27th fastest, equaling a disqualification from the race.
Race
Reutemann got a nice start and climbed to third by the first corner. Jones and Piquet remained in the lead. Lauda, Rosberg, Laffite, Tambay, de Angelis, Depailler and Villeneuve completed the top-10 after first lap which saw no incidents. Pironi got up to 11th while teammate Scheckter had none of it dropping to 17th.
First retirement of the race came on lap 5 when Villeneuve got a puncture. Another driver struggling was Rosberg who had had to let Laffite and Tambay by. Depailler was now behind him in 8th - a great day for Fittipaldi so far. Four laps later Rosberg regained a place in the points as Laffite retired, meaning another terrible blow for his title hopes. Remember, Ferraris were still on position one and three.
Pits tops around lap 20 of 60 allowed Piquet to lead briefly. Leaders who pitted earlier
came out behind Tambay and were held up badly, packing the group together. Jones had a very hard time getting past Tambay, allowing Piquet to extend his lead. By the time Piquet made his stop, he returned ahead of Tambay, effectively taking the lead from Jones at the same time. Wonderful job by the Williams pit crew!
By the time every driver had made their pit stops, the running orderd on lap 36 was the following: Piquet leading Jones by six seconds. Tambay and Reutemann battling for third but already 22 seconds behind Jones. Rosberg in fifth seven seconds behind and de Angelis in sixth five seconds behind Rosberg. Prost, Depailler and the Tyrrells were further behind. And even more further behind on P16-17 were Binder and Mansell - the fifth and third placed drivers at Zandvoort.
Rosberg reported a similar problem as Laffite had done 30 laps earlier and retired from P5. This allowed Prost to take 6th but would the rookie hold his nerve this time? In fact he did and did so magnificently as he caught and fought de Angelis in the closing laps but wasn't able to make the pass for fifth. Reutemann however was able to make his pass on Tambay on lap 52. By that thime he was already over 50 seconds down on the leading duo and so all he could was to cruise until finish.
First driver to cross the line however was Nelson Piquet who took his first win of the season after a truly brilliant drive. The Brazilian perhaps never was the fastest driver on track but had by far the best strategy and that was enough today. Jones and Reutemann had solid drives for 2nd and 3rd but still there was a sense of disappointment in the Ferrari garage and among the fans. Everyone had expected a Ferrari show today.
The result however means that Reutemann will retake the championship lead with one point over rivals Laffite and Jones. He has however already scored four times in the second half so the advantage is ever so slightly on the other two. Nelson Piquet's win help him grab fourth place in the championship as he has now scored five times in six races, he is out of the championship battle despite being only 13 points behind. In the constructors Williams takes second after all rival teams fail to score points today.
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I don't know why I hired to top drivers
I would also like to announce that I will step down from the management of Fittipaldi at the end of 1980.
I would also like to announce that I will step down from the management of Fittipaldi at the end of 1980.
wanna swap?
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Points! But well, another accident with Takahara...
You think other teams have it better than you?
You'be just made a rubbish team a winner and consider retiring
#dedication
I really am the slowest here am I?
1980 Canadian Grand Prix
Ships have sailed across the Atlantic Ocean as the Formula One circus prepares for the last two races of the season. Coming to Canada, the title race has been heating up nicely in the previous races. Arrows' Jacques Laffite and Ferrari's Carlos Reutemann and Alan Jones come into this event separated by only one point. Each of the three has encountered reliability issues lately and one can only hope that poor reliability wouldn't be the deciding factor in the championship. Surely everyone would rather see the title decided on track.
In the constructors Williams were able to build a little gap thanks to Nelson Piquet's victory in Imola. Arrows ann Tyrrell are however still within a shot while McLaren is already 14 points behind the seconds place after a miserable weekend in Italy. Last two races are important for the teams in the bottom of the standings too as every team is desperate to get some points and avoid pre-qualifying next season.
There was one new car unveiled too as Lotus brought an evolution of their previous chassis, 80-B to Montréal. The championship winning team of two years ago has stuggled badly this season but the new chassis will perhaps give their season a positive end.
Pre-qualifying
Return to usual as Hunt, Tambay and Jarier took the first three positions. Hunt's fastest time of course earned Zunino a place in qualifying too but the other places were decided between the number twos of Ligier and Rebaque. Takahara was over half a second faster than Rebaque and thus Ligier would continue their faultless pre-qualifying form. Osellas and ATS's weren't really challenging for qualifying places.
Qualifying
Alan Jones took his second consecutive pole position as he did the fastest time, defeating teammate Reutemann by some three tenths of a seconds. Fittipaldi's Niki Lauda continued his brilliant qualifying performances with third place while Nelson Piquet was fourth and eager to build on his run of four consecutive points finishes.
Fifth on the grid was an Arrows but surprisingly not the four-time winner this season and title contender Laffite but Hans Binder who really looked at home on the Île Notre-Dame Circuit. Laffite was only 10th fastest, Tyrrells, Mansell and de Angelis between the two Arrows drivers. Keke Rosberg was only 11th fastest and alongside him in 6th row was pre-qualifying winner James Hunt. 12th positions at the start will give him a proper chance to score his first points of the season!
Moving on the grid the new Lotuses weren't particularly convincing. Derek Daly was the faster of two, earning a decent 16th place start but teammate Cheever, who qualified 14th in Italy using the old chassis, was only 25th fastest. Together with him in the last row of the grid was his compatriot Bobby Rahal who qualified to race for the first time since round two in Brazil.
Race
Alan Jones got the best start and retained his lead in turn 1. Reutemann tried to challenge him from the outside but was left with no room, allowing Lauda and Binder through. Scheckter lead the the Tyrrells in fifth while Piquet, Laffite, de Angelis and Mansell completed the top-10. Rosberg and Hunt kept their positions. In the back of the pack a few drivers thought F1 was about bumper car racing - Zunino, Rahal and Regazzoni were out. Brabhams dropped to the back of the pack.
Last round's winner Piquet was struggling a lot in the early laps. By the end of lap 2 the Brazilian had already dropped down 11th as Laffite, de Angelis and McLarens came through. Possible problems perhaps the cause for the lack of speed?
Fortunately for Piquet however he could maintain the gap ahead reasonable as Binder was slowing them down. The Austrian couldn't hold for long as the Tyrrells were past by the end of lap 3. Behind them it was very tight all the way to Villeneuve in 13th who of course was driving on his home circuit. Few laps later Scheckter had to pit for loose wheel and dropped all the way down to 22th. Only Jochen Mass was behind him. Pironi meanwhile was on the rise following a pass on Lauda on lap 9. Reutemann had gone past the Austrian earlier and the Ferraris were controlling the race.
Lap 11 saw de Angelis puncture his Michelin and retire from the race. Problems for the guys in front had seen Hunt take 9th place and three laps later he was already up to 8th following a pass on Rosberg. Depailler, Ickx, Arnoux and Patrese retired next lap and on lap 18 it was Piquet's engine's turn to finally give up. Next 15 laps saw two more Michelin tyres punctured as both Arrowses retired with similar problems. This will definitely give the French manufacturer something to think about.
Pit stops were cycling at the time of the mass exodus, allowing Lauda to take the lead. Fittipaldi were strecthing his stint ten laps longer than other teams which meant Ferraris caught Lauda before the his stop. Jones and Reutemann were unable to overtake him which allowed Pironi to catch them. The Frenchman had had an excellent race so far and was regarded as dark horse in battle for victory.
Lauda pitted on lap 36 and the leading trio of Jones-Reutemann-Pironi was now within 1,5 seconds. Lauda rejoined the track in fourth, Mansell 10 seconds behind him. Hunt and Rosberg were exchanging positions in 6th and 7th while Scheckter had fought his way back into 8th. Takahara and Mass rounded out the top-10.
On lap 38 Pironi made a brilliant double pass on the Ferraris to take the lead. Scheckter was also on the rise and by lap 50 he was already past both McLaren in fifth. These were the finishing position too as the closing laps saw next to no drama. Of course there was to be one last swing with three laps to go as Reutemann retired from P3. The Ferraris had been unable to match leader Pironi's speed and when Jones saw Reutemann's car by the side of the track, there was no pressure on him to do anything else than cruise home. The second place finish earns him six points that help him regain the championship lead with a five point gap to Reutemann.
Reutemann's retirement was met with joy in the Fittipaldi garage as it helped Niki Lauda take third place and the first podium of his season. Scheckter was delighted with his fourth place finish after early problems while sixth place James Hunt was happy to return to points after a 25-race long dry spell.
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Ships have sailed across the Atlantic Ocean as the Formula One circus prepares for the last two races of the season. Coming to Canada, the title race has been heating up nicely in the previous races. Arrows' Jacques Laffite and Ferrari's Carlos Reutemann and Alan Jones come into this event separated by only one point. Each of the three has encountered reliability issues lately and one can only hope that poor reliability wouldn't be the deciding factor in the championship. Surely everyone would rather see the title decided on track.
In the constructors Williams were able to build a little gap thanks to Nelson Piquet's victory in Imola. Arrows ann Tyrrell are however still within a shot while McLaren is already 14 points behind the seconds place after a miserable weekend in Italy. Last two races are important for the teams in the bottom of the standings too as every team is desperate to get some points and avoid pre-qualifying next season.
There was one new car unveiled too as Lotus brought an evolution of their previous chassis, 80-B to Montréal. The championship winning team of two years ago has stuggled badly this season but the new chassis will perhaps give their season a positive end.
Pre-qualifying
Return to usual as Hunt, Tambay and Jarier took the first three positions. Hunt's fastest time of course earned Zunino a place in qualifying too but the other places were decided between the number twos of Ligier and Rebaque. Takahara was over half a second faster than Rebaque and thus Ligier would continue their faultless pre-qualifying form. Osellas and ATS's weren't really challenging for qualifying places.
Qualifying
Alan Jones took his second consecutive pole position as he did the fastest time, defeating teammate Reutemann by some three tenths of a seconds. Fittipaldi's Niki Lauda continued his brilliant qualifying performances with third place while Nelson Piquet was fourth and eager to build on his run of four consecutive points finishes.
Fifth on the grid was an Arrows but surprisingly not the four-time winner this season and title contender Laffite but Hans Binder who really looked at home on the Île Notre-Dame Circuit. Laffite was only 10th fastest, Tyrrells, Mansell and de Angelis between the two Arrows drivers. Keke Rosberg was only 11th fastest and alongside him in 6th row was pre-qualifying winner James Hunt. 12th positions at the start will give him a proper chance to score his first points of the season!
Moving on the grid the new Lotuses weren't particularly convincing. Derek Daly was the faster of two, earning a decent 16th place start but teammate Cheever, who qualified 14th in Italy using the old chassis, was only 25th fastest. Together with him in the last row of the grid was his compatriot Bobby Rahal who qualified to race for the first time since round two in Brazil.
Race
Alan Jones got the best start and retained his lead in turn 1. Reutemann tried to challenge him from the outside but was left with no room, allowing Lauda and Binder through. Scheckter lead the the Tyrrells in fifth while Piquet, Laffite, de Angelis and Mansell completed the top-10. Rosberg and Hunt kept their positions. In the back of the pack a few drivers thought F1 was about bumper car racing - Zunino, Rahal and Regazzoni were out. Brabhams dropped to the back of the pack.
Last round's winner Piquet was struggling a lot in the early laps. By the end of lap 2 the Brazilian had already dropped down 11th as Laffite, de Angelis and McLarens came through. Possible problems perhaps the cause for the lack of speed?
Fortunately for Piquet however he could maintain the gap ahead reasonable as Binder was slowing them down. The Austrian couldn't hold for long as the Tyrrells were past by the end of lap 3. Behind them it was very tight all the way to Villeneuve in 13th who of course was driving on his home circuit. Few laps later Scheckter had to pit for loose wheel and dropped all the way down to 22th. Only Jochen Mass was behind him. Pironi meanwhile was on the rise following a pass on Lauda on lap 9. Reutemann had gone past the Austrian earlier and the Ferraris were controlling the race.
Lap 11 saw de Angelis puncture his Michelin and retire from the race. Problems for the guys in front had seen Hunt take 9th place and three laps later he was already up to 8th following a pass on Rosberg. Depailler, Ickx, Arnoux and Patrese retired next lap and on lap 18 it was Piquet's engine's turn to finally give up. Next 15 laps saw two more Michelin tyres punctured as both Arrowses retired with similar problems. This will definitely give the French manufacturer something to think about.
Pit stops were cycling at the time of the mass exodus, allowing Lauda to take the lead. Fittipaldi were strecthing his stint ten laps longer than other teams which meant Ferraris caught Lauda before the his stop. Jones and Reutemann were unable to overtake him which allowed Pironi to catch them. The Frenchman had had an excellent race so far and was regarded as dark horse in battle for victory.
Lauda pitted on lap 36 and the leading trio of Jones-Reutemann-Pironi was now within 1,5 seconds. Lauda rejoined the track in fourth, Mansell 10 seconds behind him. Hunt and Rosberg were exchanging positions in 6th and 7th while Scheckter had fought his way back into 8th. Takahara and Mass rounded out the top-10.
On lap 38 Pironi made a brilliant double pass on the Ferraris to take the lead. Scheckter was also on the rise and by lap 50 he was already past both McLaren in fifth. These were the finishing position too as the closing laps saw next to no drama. Of course there was to be one last swing with three laps to go as Reutemann retired from P3. The Ferraris had been unable to match leader Pironi's speed and when Jones saw Reutemann's car by the side of the track, there was no pressure on him to do anything else than cruise home. The second place finish earns him six points that help him regain the championship lead with a five point gap to Reutemann.
Reutemann's retirement was met with joy in the Fittipaldi garage as it helped Niki Lauda take third place and the first podium of his season. Scheckter was delighted with his fourth place finish after early problems while sixth place James Hunt was happy to return to points after a 25-race long dry spell.
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