Cars 1937 Auto Union Type C 0.5

Gabor Edelmayer · Jan 27, 2020

garyjpaterson said:
Yeah thats definitely not normal, I wish I had any idea how this is happening and how to stop it, I've never seen anything like it. Looks to be displaying the Ext_decals texture over the top.

I'd suggest trying to delete the files and reinstall the mod, though it seems you installed it correctly considering the car boots. Are you running stock vanilla AC, no CSP mod or anything?

I'm using the latest version of CSP (0.1.38) and SOL but I have tried 1.36 & 1.37 just to make sure its not CSP messing things up but I get the same issue.
I have also tried to install with CM and normally but nothing seems to works.
Considering I know nothing about modding and it might be a terrible idea but what if I try to remove Ext_decals?

garyjpaterson · Jan 27, 2020

Gabor Edelmayer said:
I'm using the latest version of CSP (0.1.38) and SOL but I have tried 1.36 & 1.37 just to make sure its not CSP messing things up but I get the same issue.
I have also tried to install with CM and normally but nothing seems to works.
Considering I know nothing about modding and it might be a terrible idea but what if I try to remove Ext_decals?

If possible, could you test with CSP turned off entirely just to rule that out?

And regarding removing the texture, its not really something you can do. Its packed into the kn5, its used for the bonnet logo (as well as the cockpit decals)

This is the texture, which is what AC is somehow overlaying onto your screen:

Gabor Edelmayer · Jan 27, 2020

garyjpaterson said:
If possible, could you test with CSP turned off entirely just to rule that out?

And regarding removing the texture, its not really something you can do. Its packed into the kn5, its used for the bonnet logo (as well as the cockpit decals)

Well I guess it was worth an idea...
It seems to be a CSP issue indeed. I turned CSP off and the problem is gone.
Although AC without CSP just seems wrong to me after all this time using it.
I guess ill try fiddle with CSP settings, maybe something will fix it.

garyjpaterson · Jan 27, 2020

Gabor Edelmayer said:
Well I guess it was worth an idea...
It seems to be a CSP issue indeed. I turned CSP off and the problem is gone.
Although AC without CSP just seems wrong to me after all this time using it.
I guess ill try fiddle with CSP settings, maybe something will fix it.

Yeah CSP does some weird and wonderful things...

Perhaps its something to do with the optimisation settings.

r3b3ld3 · Jan 27, 2020

Ok Gary i change my mind, you car is awesome, please apologize im idiot.

I spent yesterday 2 hours whit you car in several tracks, i love the handling, and understand everything you say.

This car have some thing special for me, we need more tracks for this 30's beast.

Cheers!!

garyjpaterson · Jan 27, 2020

r3b3ld3 said:
Ok Gary i change my mind, you car is awesome, please apologize im idiot.

This car have some thing special for me, we need more tracks for this 30's beast.

No worries, glad you are enjoying it now. Maybe you can reevaluate the review you left

Also I know they aren't quite the correct period, but be sure to try these tracks with this car, they are a great fit imo:

Fonteny

I have been working on this track on and off for the last two years. It started off as a challenge to myself to see if I could find some real roads somewhere in the world that could give me the same buzz and excitement that the Nordschleife does...

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Deutschlandring

Deutschlandring - a showcase for 1930s German engineering, boasting the fastest corner in Grand Prix racing, designed to host the 1940 German Grand Prix... destined never to be used at all. In the 1930s, the government of Nazi-Germany...

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Feldbergring

After just over a year (on and off) I have finally finished my second track for AC - the Feldbergring. The Feldbergring race took place every year in Taunus, Germany, from 1920-1928, from 1934-1936, and lastly from 1950-1954. I have made the...

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Gabor Edelmayer · Jan 27, 2020

garyjpaterson said:
Yeah CSP does some weird and wonderful things...

Perhaps its something to do with the optimisation settings.

I seem to have found a solution but it causes another problem...
I had to untick that bad boy in CSP

But I now get these strange faint lines when driving open wheel cars

Might appear better in full screen view

Raymond Racing · Apr 1, 2020

I know this might be a lot to ask, but will you be doing a streamliner version as well?

garyjpaterson · Apr 1, 2020

Raymond Racing said:
I know this might be a lot to ask, but will you be doing a streamliner version as well?

If someone else builds a decent, scratch made, period correct AVUS circuit, then yes.

Gevatter · Apr 1, 2020

I take that 'Like' as a yes @Fat-Alfie

Fat-Alfie · Apr 1, 2020

No, not at all, sorry. It was mearly an appreciation of Gary's response, which I thought was perfectly reasonable.

I certainly have no plans to make AVUS, ever. I can't think of a less interesting track to either make or use.

jazzym71 · May 8, 2020

Can I ask how you adjust the driver height for this car? In FOV it only allows you to get nearer or further away. Hope there is a way as currently I cannot see over the dash and I really want to drive this car

garyjpaterson · May 8, 2020

jazzym71 said:
Can I ask how you adjust the driver height for this car? In FOV it only allows you to get nearer or further away. Hope there is a way as currently I cannot see over the dash and I really want to drive this car

You can, with the ingame app called "Onboard Settings", use that whilst in the cockpit view (not the dash cam that is poorly positioned which I apologise for) so move the view wherever you like

https://i.gyazo.com/873d93891b50b06c55236c7599377422.gif

Raymond Racing · May 10, 2020

I've noticed a few technical inaccuracies with this car; the fuel tank is 25 litres too large and the car overall is 157kg overweight.

garyjpaterson · May 10, 2020

Raymond Racing said:
I've noticed a few technical inaccuracies with this car; the fuel tank is 25 litres too large and the car overall is 157kg overweight.

Please list your sources, I'm fairly sure those are not incorrrect.
I have a document listing the Type C starting line weight as 1138 to 1158kg (numbers seen below listed in "cwt"), so that is the car with all fluids, driver, potentially full fuel tank etc, not the usual dry weight you find online. Remove a potential fuel mass of 169kg (225 litres) and it brings you pretty close to the weight of the car in AC (982kg).

Raymond Racing · May 10, 2020

garyjpaterson said:
Please list your sources, I'm fairly sure those are not incorrrect.

https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/spec/872/Auto-Union-Type-C.html - Weight listed is without driver, so add 75KG for AC driver weight.
Main article also lists a maximum weight limit of 750kg for GP cars of the era

http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/c3.htm Slight correction; only 15 litres too large based on the Type A and Type B, both cars having 210 litre tanks.

garyjpaterson · May 10, 2020

Raymond Racing said:
https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/spec/872/Auto-Union-Type-C.html - Weight listed is without driver, so add 75KG for AC driver weight.
Main article also lists a maximum unladen weight limit of 750kg for GP cars of the era

http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/c3.htm Slight correction; only 15 litres too large based on the Type A and Type B, both cars having 210 litre tanks.

Yeah sorry, ultimatecarpage isnt known for being a reliable source for that kind of thing, I'd much rather stick to my own sources of dedicated books and technical reports over that.
That 750kg number is completely useless as it measures the car without a lot of things you'd need to actually drive, like tyres etc. Not useful at all.

And this is a Type C, so A/B fuel tank capacity isn't relevant. Read the sourced I posted above.

Tibor Solyom · May 11, 2020

Sorry, if it was already discussed, but why is so long the 3rd gear compared to 2nd and 4th?

garyjpaterson · May 11, 2020

solyomtibor said:
Sorry, if it was already discussed, but why is so long the 3rd gear compared to 2nd and 4th?

Cars - 1937 Auto Union Type C

I originally planned to model those drilled holes but i quickly realised it was gonna be massively labour intensive and tri heavy (20k tris iirc), which I decided probably wasn't worth it as no one really bothers looking that close... I see I was wrong :roflmao:

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