Lamborghini, Ferrari Launch New Esports Competition Seasons

R00b_Driver · May 31, 2023

Ohhh yes, I have absolutely every chance of getting into that, I'm definitely not 5 seconds off the pace whatsoever....

kilder · May 31, 2023

more e-sports ****, beloved by the "drivers" that uses every single exploit they can to be 5 seconds faster than a normal player. Who don't loves that?!

Philip Antonia · May 31, 2023

Us regular sim racers will soon be irrelevant to developers!!

Cheesenium · May 31, 2023

Philip Antonia said:
Us regular sim racers will soon be irrelevant to developers!!

Not even surprised at this point. Without the regular players, this genre will not survive.

Look at how dead are the RTS genre now.

Luciano Santos Filho · Jun 1, 2023

Philip Antonia said:
Us regular sim racers will soon be irrelevant to developers!!

O don't think so. Not enough 'professional' sim racers to pay all the bills.

pz666 · Jun 1, 2023

Oh I thought this was about Lambo and Ferrari having their own simulations...

Got excited for a second...

TRASGU · Jun 1, 2023

kilder said:
more e-sports ****, beloved by the "drivers" that uses every single exploit they can to be 5 seconds faster than a normal player. Who don't loves that?!

I don't care about those competitions between professionals either. But there is that and there is disrespect the work they do. You say it in a way as if they almost were dirty cheaters using different physics than you.

If a normal player is 5 seconds per lap slower than the the e-sports drivers then those exploits are the least of the normal player problems. Because any e-sport driver can still lap at least 4 seconds faster without using any exploits whatsoever, even before the physics were patched last time.

After the patch 1.9 was released Niels Naujoks spent days working on the new physics evaluating setup work in both the old way and in the realistic way. After that, he did in a video a comparative between the old exploit setups and a realistic setup and the result was a mere tenth of a second in favor of the realistic setup, and the realistic setup was also easier to drive. So the "normal driver" actually is 5.1 seconds slower due to a lack of talent and work issue.

kilder · Jun 1, 2023

TRASGU said:
I don't care about those competitions between professionals either. But there is that and there is disrespect the work they do. You say it in a way as if they almost were dirty cheaters using different physics than you.

If a normal player is 5 seconds per lap slower than the the e-sports drivers then those exploits are the least of the normal player problems. Because any e-sport driver can still lap at least 4 seconds faster without using any exploits whatsoever, even before the physics were patched last time.

After the patch 1.9 was released Niels Naujoks spent days working on the new physics evaluating setup work in both the old way and in the realistic way. After that, he did in a video a comparative between the old exploit setups and a realistic setup and the result was a mere tenth of a second in favor of the realistic setup, and the realistic setup was also easier to drive. So the "normal driver" actually is 5.1 seconds slower due to a lack of talent and work issue.

I'm not good and I know that, and in part, I agree with you mate.

What i'm trying to say is that devs are putting too many efforts into the e-sports thing and simulators are becoming really boring.

And you know what? Almost everyone asks for realistic physics all the time, but as soon as they found an exploit that is completely unrealistic but make them a little bit faster, they go for it, pick for an exemple when everyone was running in the grass to maintain more colder tyres in Iracing, or more recently, running in the extreme inside line that is flat at daytona.

What i'm trying to say is that devs are focusing too much on the e-sports professional players that behave like kids on track when they could focus on other things like new content, single-player modes, immersion or whatever.

All games are starting to be the frigging same. Super realistic GT3 racing at monza/spa, where the main activity is to run free-practices over and over again trying to shave tenths of a lap that is 5 seconds slower to the "professionals" e-sports drivers, but really close to the real thing, making you think "what i'm doing wrong", and "if i'm so close to real times, how can these ETs can lap 5 seconds faster even than the real thing"?

Block · Jun 1, 2023

Honestly all this e-sports nonsense is getting boring now. Who actually cares about it other than the pro's obviously. For your average racer we just want money spent on developing the sims themselves. The average racer has no chance of competing at the final of any of these events.

guidofoc · Jun 1, 2023

782369 · Jun 1, 2023

There are plenty of leagues to take part in if you’re a slower driver. What’s the problem with ultra competitive championships? I like to watch fast guys drive well not slow guys barely keeping a car on the road (I’m also slow), keeps me wanting to improve.

Turk · Jun 2, 2023

kilder said:
I'm not good and I know that, and in part, I agree with you mate.

What i'm trying to say is that devs are putting too many efforts into the e-sports thing and simulators are becoming really boring.

And you know what? Almost everyone asks for realistic physics all the time, but as soon as they found an exploit that is completely unrealistic but make them a little bit faster, they go for it, pick for an exemple when everyone was running in the grass to maintain more colder tyres in Iracing, or more recently, running in the extreme inside line that is flat at daytona.

What i'm trying to say is that devs are focusing too much on the e-sports professional players that behave like kids on track when they could focus on other things like new content, single-player modes, immersion or whatever.

All games are starting to be the frigging same. Super realistic GT3 racing at monza/spa, where the main activity is to run free-practices over and over again trying to shave tenths of a lap that is 5 seconds slower to the "professionals" e-sports drivers, but really close to the real thing, making you think "what i'm doing wrong", and "if i'm so close to real times, how can these ETs can lap 5 seconds faster even than the real thing"?

I don't see how esports have anything to do with the enjoyment of the game. Just ignore the esports and they have no affect on you whatsoever.
When real world drivers find exploits in the real world they take advantage of them and everyone copies them. That's just the nature of racing, you do whatever you can until someone tells you you can't.

I don't see how developers are concentrating too much on esports. Other than adding in events and improving online racing they aren't doing anything esports specific.
All the exploits that people are using are open to you too, that's where your loosing out.

If your not trying to be the fastest in the world then none of this stuff matters.

Ihab Abbas · Jun 5, 2023

All I care about is that developers find a solid obvious way to prevent cheating programs or apps from ruining the sims. I don’t care about esport or even watch it. I don’t care about big money events. I care about my hobby and don’t want anyone to destroy it because of money or fame. Sim racing is the only thing left for humans before AI takeover the world.

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