Historic Le Mans-style Cars That We'd Love To See In iRacing

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The 24 Hours of Le Mans takes place this weekend, one of the highlights of the motorsport season. Plenty of iconic cars have taken part in this event, many of which that Luca believes would make great additions to iRacing.

It is that time of year when the most iconic endurance sportscar race is taking place: The Le Mans 24 Hours are the highlight of the motorsport season for many fans - certainly for sportscar enthusiasts. Last year, the race celebrated the 100th anniversary of its first edition, and plenty of amazing cars have been part of that illustrious history.

With the early access Le Mans Ultimate title set to receive updates pertaining to the future of Le Mans, it will also not be too much of a stretch to suggest it will take advantage of that renowned legacy. With Le Mans having its official sim racing home in LMU, vintage Le Mans machinery in iRacing does not have to be ruled out, thanks to the overlap with the other major endurance racing series.


There is not a huge amount of historic racing cars on iRacing. As far as sportscar content goes, the grid only consists of the Nissan GTP ZX-T and Audi 90 GTO. Neither of those cars competed in the 24 Hours of Le Mans, running in the IMSA GT Championship at events like the 24 Hours of Daytona and 12 Hours of Sebring instead.

But: Plenty of historic cars have raced in those two events and part of IMSA-sanctioned championships as well as at Le Mans. Therefore, you can make a case for many cars that have raced at Le Mans over the years to be added to iRacing, providing they have an IMSA connection. Here are a few we would love to see - some of which are not exactly Le Mans racers, but loosely connected and still incredible sportscars.

Ford v Ferrari​

Most racing fans probably know the story depicted in the 2019 movie Ford v Ferrari (or Le Mans '66 in some European countries), where Ford attempted to acquire Ferrari but was turned down, spurring them on to develop a racing car to defeat Ferrari in the 24Hours of Le Mans. This was truly a landmark era in motorsport, with the Ferrari 330 P3 and Ford GT40 Mk. II becoming some of the most iconic Le Mans cars of all time.

In 1966, Ken Miles and Lloyd Ruby took the first ever 24 Hours of Daytona win in a GT40 Mk. II, then followed it up with victory at the 12 Hours of Sebring whilst Ferrari were debuting their 330 P3 in the same race. Then of course, they all went to Le Mans where Miles fought with Lorenzo Bandini throughout the race. 1966 would see Ford finally break their duct of attempting to defeat Ferrari at Le Mans.


The Ferrari's 4.0-litre V12 developed 420 horsepower whilst the Ford was powered by a 7.0-litre V8 which produced 485 horsepower. The Ford may have been more powerful, but the Ferrari was considerably lighter, weighing in at about 0.4 tonnes less. Nevertheless, the Ford managed to run at higher speeds during the race, so it is a real exchange of Top Trumps statistics. A titanic duel at over 200mph between an unstoppable force and an immovable object.

If any two cars from the classic period of this amazing race were to be added to iRacing, it needs to be these two, considering the battle of Ford and Ferrari at Le Mans really transcended the niche and made its way into the mainstream. iRacing could even have a dedicated Ford v Ferrari official 'Endurance Legends' series, maybe even a Special Event with these two icons of motor racing.

Front-Engine Madness​

In the IMSA GT Championship, the GTX category housed the Group 5 "Special Production Cars" that raced at Le Mans. Some of these cars included the Porsche 935 "Moby Dick", the Lancia Beta Montecarlo, the Nissan Skyline Super Silhouette and the Ford Zakspeed Mustang. Whilst all very interesting, perhaps if one car from this era would be a great choice for iRacing, it would actually be from the GTX's successor class.

When we posted an article about 5 Crazy Cars We Want In Sim Racing, user @hurrydowns1 commented with a choice of their own: the 1983 Ford Mustang GTP. And whilst it did not race at Le Mans, it is most certainly a car that would have fit right in, so we had to include it. The car raced in the GTP class a few years before the Nissan ZX-T, and had its engine mounted all the way at the front.


That front-mounted engine was much smaller than one you would typically expect from a Mustang, a 1.7-litre twinturbo Inline-4. But it packed a considerable punch, developing 600 horsepower in a car that only weighed just over 800 kilograms. Plus, with the engine being mounted at the front, the whole underbody could act as a large wing to press the car into the ground.

The end result? Winning on debut in the 1983 Road America 500, courtesy of drivers Tim Coconis and Klaus Ludwig. Unfortunately, it was plagued by unreliability for the rest of its time racing and was soon replaced. Nevertheless, it had left its mark. It would make for an incredibly interesting alternative to the Nissan in the IMSA Vintage Series.

Group C Legends​

Next up is one of the most iconic classes from Le Mans, the Group C era. These were the sports prototypes that were not bound by too much in the way of regulation, instead allowing plenty of diversity in terms of design philosophy and also the engines that powered them.

Plenty of these cars would go on to race in the 24 Hours of Daytona and 12 Hours of Sebring in the GTP class that ran from 1982 to 1993. Therefore it could lend credence to them being able to come to iRacing. Two of the most prominent examples of cars that were present in both Group C and IMSA GTP were the Jaguar XJR-9 and Porsche 962.


The cars were modified to comply with the regulations in both series so whilst not the exact same models, they still retain all the important elements. The XJR-9 won on its competitive debut at the 24 Hours of Daytona in 1988, then it took victory later that year at the 24 Hours of Le Mans. As for the 962? It won over a third of the races it entered in IMSA, including five times at the Daytona 24 Hours and four times at the Sebring 12 Hours. It also of course won Le Mans twice.

Another point for the Jaguar is its engine - you cannot beat the sound of a naturally-aspirated V12. Although on a personal note, another Group C legend I would love to see in iRacing is the Mazda 787B, which won Le Mans in 1991. It is of course because of the amazing sound from its rotary engine, but perhaps it may be trickier to justify adding it since the car - whilst designed to IMSA GTP regulations - did not race in IMSA.

Can-Am Convert​

Next up is another technicality since like the Mustang GTP, this car did not actually race at Le Mans. The Porsche 917 K was one of the most successful machines in all of sportscar racing, winning both the World Sportscar Championship and 24 Hours of Le Mans in 1970 and 1971, as well as an additional 14 races of the 21 it entered.

Whilst the 917 K would be great to have, a sprint-based variant of it is perhaps even more of a mouth-watering prospect. This version of the 917 may have never raced Le Mans, but it instead made its mark in the Canadian American Challenge Cup - or Can-Am as most people know it. The cars that raced in this series were wild, but none - not even the Chaparral 2J fan car - were quite as wild as the Porsche 917/30 Spyder.


The car was powered by a 5.4-litre turbocharged Flat-12 engine, which in its qualifying configuration, produced close to 1,600 horsepower. If that was not already sounding incredible, it only weighed 800 kilograms! The end result was complete and utter domination of the 1973 Can-Am season with Mark Donohue piloting it to six wins, only failing to win the first two races of the season.

You can find the 917/30 Spyder in Assetto Corsa as part of the Porsche Pack 1 DLC. Just imagine the chaos that would ensue in the races with this car. Plus, with how ingrained American forms of motorsport are in iRacing, it is odd to comprehend that they have not already got at least one Can-Am car. So if they had to add any, hopefully it ends up being the Porsche 917/30 Spyder.

Honourable Mentions​

There are one or two that I have made peace with the fact that they will never be added to iRacing, the first one being the DeltaWing. If that car was ever going to be added to iRacing, it would have happened in the mid 2010s when it raced in the IMSA SportsCar Championship after debuting as a Garage 56 entry.

It very nearly won races overall on multiple occasions against LMP2s and Daytona Prototypes but for one reason or another, it just never happened. Unfortunately, the licencing and copyright disputes between Panoz and Nissan killed any hope of this incredible car ever being in any racing game after it was initially removed from Gran Turismo 6. A real shame, as this car would have been fascinating to drive in officials.


Another car that would have been great to have in iRacing is the Porsche 919 EVO. In the hands of Timo Bernhard, the derestricted version of the 919 LMP1 car lapped the Nürburgring-Nordschleife in 5:19.546 - but never actually competed.

Of course, the issue here is that it would be too fast to run it against any other class-leading prototypes, and the LMP1s were being phased out anyway by that point. It would become the Mercedes W12 of Sports Car, incredibly fast but could not be used in anything.

Modern Breed of Le Mans Cars​

That just covers the more classic breed of Le Mans cars but what about the modern day? Over on our YouTube channel, we have put together a list of five cars that have raced Le Mans in recent years that could feasibly be added to iRacing.


Which Le Mans cars or other sports cars would you like to drive in iRacing? Let us know your choices on Twitter @OverTake_gg or in the comments below!
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Yes, there a lot of iconic cars, that would be fun to drive in iRacing, but: Just look at the grids with historic cars like Lotus 49, Lotus 79, Nissan. The grids are very often too low to be counted.
These cars need very different driving style compared to a modern GT3, etc. And most of the younger ones did not grow up with Grand Prix Legends.
But there is AMS2, where you can already find these cars.
 
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Yes, there a lot of iconic cars, that would be fun to drive in iRacing, but: Just look at the grids with historic cars like Lotus 49, Lotus 79, Nissan. The grids are very often too low to be counted.
These cars need very different driving style compared to a modern GT3, etc. And most of the younger ones did not grow up with Grand Prix Legends.
But there is AMS2, where you can already find these cars.
Yeah I am curious about why the historic racing series on iRacing are so unloved. They have a Special Event for the Nissan and Audi with the Road America 500, and I believe the Lotus 49 should have a Nordschleife 22 lap Special Event.

AMS2 is a historic sim racer's dream title, I'd always suggest it even though I don't play it myself. I hope they get round to adding driver swaps so we can see classic endurance events taking place on there.
 
Personally, I'd love to see alternative classic cars and tracks in iRacing as well. From the 60's, 70's, 80's and onwards.

Ford Capri. Historic Porsche 911. The Merc 190E and Sierra Cosworth - plus some Grp.5 beasts to name a few. Call me messed up, but I'd also like to see some classic tarmac spec rally cars like the 6R4, and some hill-climb cars and stages too. There are so many really cool machines from the GTR2 game era too. So lots of lovely Ferrari models, Lister etc., etc.

It's a real shame that to buy so many classics would require a second-mortgage lol, as there are so many classic race cars and tracks that we could keep alive within a modern expanding sim. I can dream.
 
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Like I mentioned in another thread today, I think tracks would also be needed to make it properly interesting, at least in my opinion.

Additionally, those who are into historic content are a niche within our niche, further niched (that's a word now :D ) considering not all of them are into online competition. That probably explains the lower participation numbers - the general appeal of sim racing seems to be more on modern cars and tracks that you could see race in real life as well. Exceptions apply, of course, like the retro Cup cars, for instance.
 
Anyone who does have the slightest insight in the iracing server just cannot want this: Those series would die after the first season at the latest. Nobody races those cars in iRacing sadly.

So in any other sim it would be a very warm welcome but I personally woudn‘t spend 10+€ for a car I can only use for practice or ai racing in the end.
 
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Anyone who does have the slightest insight in the iracing server just cannot want this: Those series would die after the first season at the latest. Nobody races those cars in iRacing sadly.

So in any other sim it would be a very warm welcome but I personally woudn‘t spend 10+€ for a car I can only use for practice or ai racing in the end.
You're probably right..
 
Like I mentioned in another thread today, I think tracks would also be needed to make it properly interesting, at least in my opinion.

Additionally, those who are into historic content are a niche within our niche, further niched (that's a word now :D ) considering not all of them are into online competition. That probably explains the lower participation numbers - the general appeal of sim racing seems to be more on modern cars and tracks that you could see race in real life as well. Exceptions apply, of course, like the retro Cup cars, for instance.

Yeah I personally realise most people hate rally content with a passion. Of course, if such stages or hill climbs were in iRacing, they'd only be available for leaderboard challenges. I think a good while back, was it Forza-5(?) that did track events with cones on. I thought that was a really cool way to take existing tracks, and create additional events on them. It'll never happen, but it just gets extra value from the stuff we have.
 
Yeah I am curious about why the historic racing series on iRacing are so unloved. They have a Special Event for the Nissan and Audi with the Road America 500, and I believe the Lotus 49 should have a Nordschleife 22 lap Special Event.

AMS2 is a historic sim racer's dream title, I'd always suggest it even though I don't play it myself. I hope they get round to adding driver swaps so we can see classic endurance events taking place on there.
Because most simracers won't say it, but they want easy cars. GT3 is not the most popular class in simracing by a landslide without reason, and it has zero bearing with the real life motorsport popularity of it.
 
Anyone who does have the slightest insight in the iracing server just cannot want this: Those series would die after the first season at the latest. Nobody races those cars in iRacing sadly.

So in any other sim it would be a very warm welcome but I personally woudn‘t spend 10+€ for a car I can only use for practice or ai racing in the end.
For a good while I was a happy camper at the Kamel GT series with the Nissan ZX-T. Problem was, as my personal life evolved, I couldn't commit anymore to the two timeslots that were always official, and that made me drop the service altogether after a while. It was money wasted: I couldn't race the cars I wanted, and the ones I could, I didn't want. And there was not even AI available for them back then.
 
Because most simracers won't say it, but they want easy cars. GT3 is not the most popular class in simracing by a landslide without reason, and it has zero bearing with the real life motorsport popularity of it.
well, they found their way onto the current lemans grid, they have taken over dtm, they seem to be fairly popular in real life as well
 
well, they found their way onto the current lemans grid, they have taken over dtm, they seem to be fairly popular in real life as well
GT3 was the most popular class even back in 2015, when they were not even at IMSA, and all the places where they ran could be found for free on YouTube.

It's not the real life popularity the reason why they are the most populated cars on simracing. It never was.
 
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If you wants lost of historic content (and Group C cars), you have to go to AMS2. Iracing is lacking in great historical content. Actually, cars that they don't update for 10 years could now be considered "historical content"
 
These cars are welcome anywhere and anytime by me. But while speaking about iRacing, what a terrific waste of a sim if we would look at it solely as historic racing simulator. What baffles me is that they don't even have their own American absolute heroes of the past, such as: Cunningham C4R, Cobra Daytona, any actual GT40, Chaparral 2F, any actual Corvette. Maybe because they are unable to simulate them.
 
Just don't bring them to LMU pls pls pls


MSG PRESENTS a groundbreaking sim ! (drumroll ) ............. " WEC: History " :speechless::inlove::cool::coffee:




I hope you all get every historic in iRacing you ever wished for ;)
 
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Historic Le Mans and its cars is one of the very few reasons I endure Project Cars 2 and its special FFB still.

The content in that game still stands as some of the best, even if the driving is now a little dated.
 
Yeah I am curious about why the historic racing series on iRacing are so unloved. They have a Special Event for the Nissan and Audi with the Road America 500, and I believe the Lotus 49 should have a Nordschleife 22 lap Special Event.

AMS2 is a historic sim racer's dream title, I'd always suggest it even though I don't play it myself. I hope they get round to adding driver swaps so we can see classic endurance events taking place on there.
I think the special event at Road America is relatively popular, certainly more than the series these cars run. Too bad I could not organize myself to take part yet.

There is league that organizes the '66 German GP at the Nordschleife with the Lotus 49, with multiple splits. I did it this year and it was a ton of fun.

These cars may not generate healthy leagues, but I believe many people would join historical special events with them. A proper Le Mans with group C cars and the historical layout would be a major event.
 
I miss the historic track layouts in iRacing. That could be the reason the old cars don't get the attention they deserve. You drive a Lotus 49 in Monza with chicane for example, it's just boring, the car was developed for much faster tracks.
I like Reiza approach to track development, we almost always get 2 or 3 historic layouts.
 
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If only there was a current available game that with modding had virtually every car mentioned above, and with a massive amount of classic tracks of all ages. Oh well, i can dream on i guess
 

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