Straight 4 Studios Surprised Itself With Project Motor Racing Tire Model

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It is no secret that Straight4 Studios have big ambitions for Project Motor Racing. A new insight video explains the intricacies of their physics engine - and it will be going very deep.

Realism is key in sim racing, of course, but trying to depict race cars perfectly accurately in a virtual environment is no easy feat. For Project Motor Racing, developer Straight4 Studios aims to go at least one step further, however: Their physics engine looks seet to be extremely in-depth.


In the latest video insight into the project (a series called Roots: Drivers Wanted), Straight4's Principal Vehicle Programmer Ben Ponsford explains some of the challenges and goals in Project Motor Racing's physics simulation, noting that real race cars can often feel slightly different to different drivers in the same or very similar conditions.

This is due to the complexity of a race car. In a very basic way of looking at it, there are a few main factors that influence how a car behaves - its tires, aerodynamics, weight and power, first and foremost. Of course, there is much more to it - and Straight4 aims to simulate more of these intricacies. One of them even came naturally via their SETA-based tire model.

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Straight4 Studios secured a publishing deal with GIANTS Software of Farming Simulator fame for Project Motor Racing.

Big, Positive Tire Model Surprise​

"The biggest surprise we had was during development of the tire model. We ran it in a test environment at various different frequencies, and if you run the frequency at tens of thousands of times per second, you start to see this emergent behavior", noted Ponsford. "You get an initial peak of grip come out of a tire laterally, which very quickly fades away and then goes back to the normal slip curve behavior that is much more known. We have not seen this sort of phenomenon mentioned in any sort of publications, but race drivers talk about it."

He continued: "They talk about this bite the cars have, an immediacy to the turn-in that happens before they settle into the corner. We were able to see that it is actually a real thing, and it pulls out of the tyre model naturally, which we were pleased to see. That was the coolest thing that we've got out of the new physics."

There is more to it, too. The Project Motor Racing physics engine will run at a refresh rate of 720Hz, "but that is only the tip of the iceberg." While the vehicle movement, tire info and deformation, and the suspension operate at this frequency, but Ponsford also highlighted the various driveline components and how they interact with each other - which will be simulated at 7.200Hz.

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Straight4-Reiza Cooperation Possibly Helped​

The SETA tire model is also present in Automobilista 2 via the Madness Engine - to which some of Project Motor Racing's team are connected via their work on the Project CARS a few years ago. AMS2 developer Reiza Studios has made big progress with that tire model and is set to release a big overhaul in this area, among many others, with their upcoming v1.6 update.

In May 2023, Reiza and Straight4 announced that they would be cooperating, and Straight4 CEO Ian Bell specifically stated that he was "enormously impressed with what Renato and his studio were able to create in terms of feel and handling with Automobilista 2." It would not be far fetched to think that this tire model progress also benefitted from this cooperation.

Physics-based Internal Combustion Engine Model​

"And the new internal combustion engine model we've got is actually very much quicker than that", according to Ponsford."We actually simulate every two degrees of crank rotation. That means something like 36.000Hz for typical RPM range that the race car engines will be running at."

The internal combustion engine model is based on physics attributes as well, such as the number of cylinders, an engine's bore and stroke and more, with them having an (ideally) accurate effect on torque curves and other aspects of the engine's behavior.

While this may sound complicated, it should - at least in theory - result in a much more accurate simulation of the driving without making it more difficult, but rather more natural. We are certainly keen to find out how this translates to the feel in our rigs once a playable version of Project Motor Racing becomes available.

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Blending Driver Feedback With Data​

And it is not like Straight4 are simply relying on the physics engine to do its job and call it a day, either. For one, the studio works with Handling Consultant Ben Collins to gather feedback, and on the other hand, they acquired all the setup data for their hero car featured in their videos - the Lister Storm GT that @Michel Wolk and I got to see up close at Silverstone earlier this year.

"That allows us to see how the real engineers, over the course of its career, have made changes from track to track and over time as they've learned things", explained Ponsford. "We can go back and look at that data and try to understand, why have they done it? Does it make sense to us with the model that we've got, does it always feel like an improvement? Because it should do.

"We can also look at the track-to-track setup differences they made, and if we should be able to apply those same differences that they've made and it should work in the sim as well. That would also just verify that the whole detail of the model that we've got is correct."

What are your impressions of the physics engine insights for Project Motor Racing? What would you like to see in the sim? Let us know in the comments below and join the discussion in our Project Motor Racing forum!
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I think PCars2 was groundbreaking in a number of areas at the time so credit to the devs where it's due. I'm not a huge fan of some of the marketing noise surrounding it so don't believe a word until I feel it myself but the dynamic weather was a significant step forward, the tyre model was very complex (although it was inaccurate and messy - unfinished) and most of all the graphics to performance ratio was (and still is) extremely impressive.

I will be watching this very closely as despite everything, this guy can pull a few surprises and it is a great game I want, not a beer with the guy who directs it. After Pcars3, he needs to get his one finished too. Ian, I recommend keeping the scope small, nail the physics and initial car models and tracks and stick with those until they are the best in the business before expanding. Now get to work :D
 
this is just pure publicity , you havent tested it , they said wow , you report it

its another Advert , hope you got paid

Andi
 
On paper, what they told in the vlog was really interesting! I hope they managed to translate the nuances of the real cars they tried on track, into their new physics engine. Every new sim is welcome for me, no prejudices. Eventually, the road test will tell the truth.
 
On paper, what they told in the vlog was really interesting! I hope they managed to translate the nuances of the real cars they tried on track, into their new physics engine. Every new sim is welcome for me, no prejudices. Eventually, the road test will tell the truth.
on the paper project cars 3 was the best of the best 200% better than project cars 2, Ian bell talk......
 
Ah the marketing on this title will be absolutely side splitting funny...

Of course S4S surprised itself, Ian thought the SETA was a good idea for sim racing and set a very low bar with the pCARS series... They literally do not have to try...

Can't wait for all the screenshots of how good the grass looks on another engine that has never been proven to provide good stability for high speed graphics in VR... Only for VR to be too important for the games future and it be delayed again as a new engine is being sought after...
 
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this is just marketing... lets wait and see. I don't expect too serious of a sim from these guys base on their past history.
 
According to the video, it's 720Hz for one area with the others listed 10 times greater to give 7,200Hz. He also mentions the engines being around 36,000Hz due to crank rotation modelling.

What will be interesting is, getting all the cars to run with the same physics, which PCars did not do from memory. So you could corner flat out to the limit of your player car physics, but AI could overtake you and make you look like you were driving backwards because the engine wasn't powerful enough for the AI cars to run the same physics we had whilst driving.

To echo Peter's comment above, this is exactly the type of thing Forza Motorsport claimed would propel Motorsport to new heights. Personally that didn't work for me. Interesting times ahead for sim racing for sure, let's hope they can pull it off.
Very rarely do Developers waste CPU cycles on giving the AI the same level of physics that the user receives. A rough approximation gives the AI reasonable behavior without bogging down the entire simulation.
 

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