Work On Le Mans Ultimate Will Continue As Motorsport Games Talks To Potential Investors

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Sim racers were concerned about the future of Le Mans Ultimate in the light of recent news regarding redundancies and a potential sale of Motorsport Games. MSG CEO Stephen Hood talks about the immediate future of the company.

Employees being made redundant and the possibility of the company being sold - Motorsport Games and Studio 397 had it rough recently, with many sim racers wondering about the future of Le Mans Ultimate as a result. The official WEC game is the only title the company is actively working on, and its 2024 content is not yet complete.

This led to some sim racers fearing that work on LMU would be halted following the recent layoffs, which led to MSG downsizing by about 40%. However, the scenario of no one being left to actually work on the game that some have painted does not come into play, as Motorsport Games CEO Stephen Hood told OverTake.

"Some of the more junior people were let go, but the core team we got now is quite tight", Hood explained. "We looked at what we needed to deliver - the GT3 cars, tracks, a version 1.0 - and the people who are still here are capable of doing that. We have to deliver these, because we were positively shocked by how many players bought the season pass. We thought it would be 5 or 8, maybe 15, but not almost 50% of all DLC sales."

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Keeping The Lights On​

This meant that the short-term mission for Motorsport Games and Studio 397 - which can basically be used as synonyms at this point as Hood pointed out again that MSG is essentially just S397 now - is to keep the lights on for Le Mans Ultimate. They also want to give the game a chance at a future: Hood confirmed that MSG is indeed in talks with potential investors.

A cash injection or full acquisition by one of said potential investors would allow LMU to grow further after the aforementioned content and updates have been delivered. But to set up the company for this, head count had to be reduced to balance the company's expenses and revenues. "In my mind, it's the final piece of this painful, uncomfortable puzzle of cleaning up the business ahead of investment or acquisition, because nobody wants to carry the extra weight. They want to get it under control, make sure the wheel is turning, and then grow strategically", Hood stated.

That does not mean that laying off people was an easy thing to do, as Hood continued: "First and foremost, I apologize to those individuals that were affected. None of those individuals who were let go I ever wanted to say goodbye to. We are very conscious about the impact that it has." Hood also underscored that they were not the ones who made the mistakes that led to this situation.

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"We massively effed up with NASCAR 21"​

Hence, he also understands their frustration. After leaving the company in January 2022, Hood was brought back as CEO in 2023, "and everybody looked to me in a way of "Steve can come back, wave the magic wand - that I don't have - and save the business. It doesn't always work like that. We tried to make the right decisions to put the company back on the right track, but the numbers did not add up", recalls Hood. "We massively effed up with NASCAR 21: Ignition, and our communications after that were not good."

In short, MSG's mistakes from a few years ago still haunt the company to this day, eventually leading to this downsizing to give the company, Studio 397 and Le Mans Ultimate a chance to keep on going. Now, the focus is on doing things properly, as Hood repeatedly emphasized.

And that also means that "we're not going to turn up the servers and say subscriptions are the only way you can play LMU online now. That would be the Motorsport Games of old", Hood addressed a concern of many sim racers when subscriptions were first talked about. "We need to turn the page. And we are working day and night to turn this page."

Le Mans Virtual "On Pause", No Change To rFactor 2 Plans​

Another result of this is that Le Mans Virtual is on hold for now, although Hood still hopes to get the series and official Le Mans 24 Hours event back on the grid in early 2025. "We will do that once we have an investor or a new owner on board. Until then, it is on pause - it would be the wrong approach for driving revenue right now", Hood states. "We would love to do it again, but at the right time."

Meanwhile, plans for rFactor 2 have not changed - not that there were any plans to do more with it before the redundancies. "It was either rFactor 3 or a Le Mans game", Hood looks back. "We were not working on rFactor 2 anymore, so that plan has not changed." Indeed, one could argue that the last really bigger update hit rF2 in October 2023 when the RaceControl online system was implented, which is now also present in Le Mans Ultimate.


Keeping an eye on the path of Motorsport Games, Studio 397 and Le Mans Ultimate certainly is going to be one of sim racing's very interesting storylines to follow as 2024 draws to a close. We will of course keep you updated on what is happening!

What are you hoping for regarding Le Mans Ultimate's future? Let us know in the comments below and join the discussion in our Le Mans Ultimate forum!
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Wait isn't LMU 50/50 join venture with the WEC... Plus clearly not a copy paste... PC1/PC2/AMS/AC1/ACC/rF2/LMU... imo they have similar progression... They all take what existed prior and improve/add to it. But none re-invented the wheel... and I would bet ACE will share some stuff from AC and ACC... no one is expecting anything else. The whole point in software engineering is write once and re-use multiple times... if you are not doing that you clearly not very good at it.

"No one is expecting anything else". Uh, yes they do.

"and I would bet ACE will share some stuff from AC and ACC" Uh, no it won't.

"But none re-invented the wheel" Uh, yes they did.

"Plus clearly not a copy paste" Uh, yes it is.
 
I likely would have bought LMU dlc if they hadn't abandoned BTCC dlc in a semi-usable state.

In my opinion, the best thing that could happen is that the studio gets picked up by another company and continues to produce the content, but has someone else making decisions about the scope and development of their games as a whole. They make simply fantastic content. But they are horrible at making a good game, or following through. They have zero sense of acceptable public relations or, apparently business management. There's a lot of talent there, but there seems to be a lack of responsible adult oversight.

At all events, I hope it works out okay for everyone involved, one way or another.
 
Unfortunately I can see this title and studio closing down.It is likely MSG paid way to much for the Le Mans WEC licence so any new company wanting to take over the LMU game has to take over that licence with ACO/WEC with some hefty annual payments or re-negotiate the terms.
I dont see Iracing doing anything with the LMU sim.Much simpler to talk to WEC/ACO and put its own cars into a game that could maybe be released on PC/consoles in 2026.Same goes for Reiza.They have nearly all the cars and tracks,so why takeover someone elses similar assets?
The good news is that people working on LMU will likely find work elsewhere because there are plenty of racing sims being developed.
 
"No one is expecting anything else". Uh, yes they do.

"and I would bet ACE will share some stuff from AC and ACC" Uh, no it won't.

"But none re-invented the wheel" Uh, yes they did.

"Plus clearly not a copy paste" Uh, yes it is.
:sneaky: people have no memory :thumbsup:
 
well I was more than happy with the initial '23 season and cars for 25 quid, I'm watching closely the saga to see if I can risk getting the DLC at a later date. Hopefully things work out. It's a shame MSG is a mess.
 
He doesn't specify but what actually is in 1.0? Career mode? Championship mode? Scenario mode? What's stopping them from calling what we have 1.0? if this is supposed to be a WEC game I would expect everything that makes a WEC experience.. Hyperpoles, multiple safety cars, multiple practise sessions.. just to name a few
 
"No one is expecting anything else". Uh, yes they do.

"and I would bet ACE will share some stuff from AC and ACC" Uh, no it won't.

"But none re-invented the wheel" Uh, yes they did.

"Plus clearly not a copy paste" Uh, yes it is.
Sure they will reuse assets in ACE that are good enough from previous titles. Or do you think that they developed Nords for ACC to throw it into the bin afterwards or rescan Brands or Imola everytime they release a new game? Studios nowadays don't build sim racing games from scratch anymore because it's expensive and wasted ressources that you better spend elsewhere. It's no surprise that most of the cars seen in ACE are in previous titles. Sure there will be updates to the content or scratch made new assets where needed, but sure not everything. LMU isn't any different in that regard as it's build upon a proven foundation and the tech aswell as assets got enhanced over time. You can't swap content and features between rF2 and LMU, that's been also explained by Marcel Offermanns at one point.

Everyone who seriously gave it a fair shot with zero reservations against the publisher will have noticed obvious similarities with rF2 but also things that work completely different, like the HUD and UI tech. You will find similar stuff in Kunos titles aswell, like the trademark train AI. And what's so bad about using knowhow and knowledge from previous titles? AC1 is build upon NetkarPro technology and nobody cares. ACC is build upon tech from Unreal and NetcarPro. iRacing is build upon NR2003 wich is build upn GPL. LMU and it's prequels are build upon Sportscar GT. AMS2 goes as far back as NFS Shift with a bit of Sportscar GT aswell. Raceroom goes back to Sportscar GT. So please speak for yourself if you expect everything to be from sratch everytime a game releases, because looking at our hobby currently, the most popular titles are all copy-pasta. Or better whipe any sim racing title off your SSD or HDD because they are all build upon something. If you can show me any reason why people should just hold this against MSG or LMU and not the whole industry I would be pleasently surprised.
 
If you can show me any reason why people should just hold this against MSG or LMU and not the whole industry I would be pleasently surprised.

To say LMU isn't a copy paste is a stretch, as it used MANY assets, not just a few. AC Evo will of course use some foundations like track scans and possibly car models, but it's an entirely new engine and not even close to what is happening with LMU. I have no ill feelings towards any developer or simulation, but I did learn a lesson from MSG, and that lesson was distrust. All they did was create a ton of damage to sim racing. I for one cannot support such a company, no matter how much I would like for S397 to survive and move on from that reputation. Sadly, IMHO I don't think they will be able to. I hope I'm wrong.
 
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I do wonder what the future will be, and how many near identical sims can exist...

AC essentially caused the decline for rFactor, by being as moddable and popular.

Now we get all new sims like Rennsport and people shrug and largely ignore them.

How many sims will exist in future? iRacing and ACE only? Is there even a place for single series games these days? Maybe there should just be one simulation engine and everyone makes content for it, like Microsoft Flight Simulator 😂 imagine if all the best sim brains worked together... then again that's not really financially viable.

It's a bit like Need For Speed. In the early days it had very few cars so each had a video/showcase and you could choose a favourite. Nowadays games just shower you with cars and nothing seems particularly special. Progress, I guess...
 
Is there even a place for single series games these days?
I'd say yes. I'd say there is a place for LMU. And even more, LMU would probably be doing pretty well right now if not for MSG that burned millions of dollars and uses LMU to pay off its debts. And for that LMU was not enough financially.

But if the whole company were managed responsibly I think that LMU would do pretty well right now.
 
100% yes.

I'm tired of messing about with mods and digging in text files trying to make a series that ends up coming kind of close to the series that I want to race ... sort of, with some pretty major omissions.

I want to be able to hit play and have the series - cars, tracks, weekend format - ready to go.

I will be all over LMU if they deliver a WEC experience with good single player support. It's partly there right now.

I would also buy a good single series game for BTCC, Indy, Supercars and IMSA without blinking - if it were done properly. Not to mention all the classic series from the past - so much potential for a good single series racing game.

Sandbox games with no coherent vision - rfactor2 - have very little appeal for me. AMS2 has fantastic CART cars ... and about 4 tracks :unsure:. I love that so many people are passionate about making mods, but there is often an insurmountable gap between making a lovely looking track, and having it function properly, in game, with working AI. Multiplayer, fine whatever, I have no interest.

WEC is massively popular now. If they had a clean slate, LMU should be doing very well. But it comes with a lot of well deserved baggage and strange development priorites.
 
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Then there are also those who say that it's not true that these guys have literally killed rFactor2 ... for what then, LMU, an eternal early access that surely will not become 1.0 not even until the beginning of next summer, if financially they get there ...
 
As a former supporter of rF2, I say forget developers, I don't trust every one of them, they are as terrible as each other in my 7 years. Bankruptcy is best way forward for S397 and MSG IMO.

All rF2 needs now is a source leak and look at this for inspiration (refer to Falcon BMS)...
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As for investors, may I suggest Dominic Chappell, who has a storied racing career, raced Mika Hakknen in British F3, plus he led a multi million pound retail chain at one point. Now lives quitely rent free, food provided, paid for by the taxpayers
 
I have confidence in Studio 397 and Motorsports games and trust that they'll take the steps required to continue development of this stellar Sim racing title. WEC and it's multi-class endurance racing is my favorite form of motorsports and am fine being patient with LMU's development. I want it to be as refined as ACC is now, it's already much better than it's Beta launch, the game development trajectory is spot on, and we haven't been
disappointed waiting for content so far either. LMU is great, keep up the good work!
 

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All rF2 needs now is a source leak and look at this for inspiration (refer to Falcon BMS)...
You need to know that BMS exists solely because Microprose went bankrupt around the time code was leaked and did not take immediate action. There was no one at the time that had any stake in the code. And further down the line when some parties that had appeared any action taken against source ports backfired for them.

This is not the case for rF2, not even close. Any source code leak would be immediately shut down on legal basis with full force as there are now too many parties that have money drowned in it and want to see some investment back.

Such leak would only make sense if MSG went down completely, no one bought S397 and rF2 and LMU were completely abandoned (and probably not even sold anymore). We're not even close to such a state.
 
Also, I'm guessing ACO/FIA would be more active in protecting their IP and marketing rights than General Dynamics was.
 
To say LMU isn't a copy paste is a stretch, as it used MANY assets, not just a few. AC Evo will of course use some foundations like track scans and possibly car models, but it's an entirely new engine and not even close to what is happening with LMU. I have no ill feelings towards any developer or simulation, but I did learn a lesson from MSG, and that lesson was distrust. All they did was create a ton of damage to sim racing. I for one cannot support such a company, no matter how much I would like for S397 to survive and move on from that reputation. Sadly, IMHO I don't think they will be able to. I hope I'm wrong.
What kind of argumentation is that even supposed to be ... "it uses many assets, not just a few"? Are you the sheriff to give green light for what's allowed and what isn't? Like three cars is ok, four isn't? Two lines of code is fine, ten is over the top? Or how exactly does that work? Ofcourse it uses assets that fullfilled certain quality requirements - like the 488 - but the majority of content has atleast been updated considerably or rebuild from scratch to meet those requirements. That amount of workload that goes into the product is what makes it's quality and price. I am yet to see one of those armchair programmers run a single lap with a car and track copy-and-pasted from LMU to rF2 or vice versa. Five minute job, easy peasy. As we say, proof is in the pudding, while people are still talking a 30-Euro product with completely free MP structure and content build to the highest quality standards in pretty much every regard. Every mole would have noticed by now that none of the content in LMU is as it was in rF2 - nada.

And now to everything else that isn't about the assets but the core. How are you going to judge this point if you aren't involved in the development of both of those titles? How do you meassure the complexity of both tasks? ACE uses a new graphics engine according to Kunos, everything else is unknown. And it's safe to say that this is the result of many years of work - same like the evolution of the graphics engines in other titles *wink. You are talking as if a new game is just about a new graphics engine, wich is obviously complete nonsense. Otherwise you might be able to answer why the game is called AC Evolution ... :rolleyes: As I see it, you are the prime example of someone with double standards ... So how am I supposed argue with people who have no principles?
 

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